That seemed like a promising methodology, but I did some google searches
in which the names of frequent posters to this thread were ANDed with
colourful descriptors (wanker) and the results shook my confidence in
the august credentials of our debating club.
BTW, I think it's irrelevant whether and how much Oracle and DB2 have
departed from Codd's 12 rules. We have watched relational databases
displace hierachical and network databases - I think it's appropriate
that the relational model gets stretched to address the needs of the
object-oriented and XML worlds. FWIW, before his death, Codd was pushing
OLAP. Some of the world's most successful software (CICS, IMS) came from
tactical solutions developed by customers and field engineers.
Mark Townsend wrote:
>
>>
>> It seems like you're bending the truth a little bit here.
>>
>
> I think my point still stands - the market tends to decide what database
> gets chosen under SAP (or indeed, any packaged app vendor), and is not
> swayed too much by any contra deals set up between one vendor and another.
>
> Instead of availability of training, consider another metric for what
> the market wants - a monster search for jobs
>
> "oracle and sap" returns 1178 hits
> "db2 and sap" returns 119 hits
> "informix and sap" returns 35 hits
> "sqlserver and sap" returns (a surprisingy) 7 hits
>
> "oracle and peoplesoft" - 906 hits
> "db2 and peoplesoft" - 143 hits
> "informix and peoplesoft" - 75 hits
> "sqlserver and peoplesoft" - 14 hits
>
>
> "oracle and siebel" - 493 hits
> "db2 and siebel" - 74 hits
> "informix and siebel" - 13 hits
> "sqlserver and siebel" - 6 hits
>
> Does this mean that demand for Oracle expertise under a packaged app is
> at least 6 times stronger than for the next closest database ?
>
> And, deamnd aside, given there is a significant lack of training
> available for anybody to cross skill, does this mean that this will stay
> this way for the foreseeable future ?
>
> All questions are purely rhetorical, of course.
>
> But there's your marketshare numbers.
>
Received on Wed Jun 16 2004 - 13:16:15 CDT
