Re: database market share 2003

"Noons" <wizofoz2k_at_yahoo.com.au> schreef in bericht news:73e20c6c.0406061927.438e0ab_at_posting.google.com...
> "Jeroen van den Broek" <Jeroen_at_NO_SPAMbaasbovenbaas.demon.nl> wrote in
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> > Have you ever used Oracle on OS/390?
>
> Matter of fact, I have. When that crap was called MVS/XA.
>

Assuming this has been >10 years back, as MVS/XA has been withdrawn end 1992, do you think nothing has changed since, both for the OS as for Oracle?

> > I wouldn't say it works EXACTLY and PRECISELY the same there.
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> I would say you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
>

Why are you getting personal?
Did I attack you? No.
Did I attack your favorite DBMS? No.
As a matter of fact, I work both with DB2 and Oracle (on OS/390) and although I am far more familiar with DB2, I am perfectly happy with Oracle as well.

> > Oracle on OS/390 comes with quite a few manuals specific for that
> > environment, which wouldn't be necessary for a product that doesn't care
on
> > which platform it is executed.
>
> And coming with manuals that explain that deranged platform is
> a fault of Oracle in not being the same as everywhere else?
>

The manuals don't explain the OS (lots of IBM-manuals for that), but the differences in architecture, administrative procedures, parameters, messages etc between the OS/390 version of Oracle and the 'standard' Oracle environment.

> Here is a clue: stop measuring your knowledge of a product
> by the weight of manuals. It helps too if you read them...

Again, getting personal doesn't make a good argument. I am perfectly aware that I am no match for you w.r.t. knowledge about Oracle in general, but this doesn't give you the right to act like a VIP and try to shut me up by being rude. Furthermore, I think I am safe in assuming I have read more of the current OS/390-specific Oracle-documentation then yourself.
Maybe you care to read this pdf-file:
http://shareweb.share.org/proceedings/sh96/data/S0961.PDF It contains an 'Introduction to Oracle on OS/390 with OSDI' written by Ken Panza from Oracle.

One final question: if you think Unix is the only viable environment not only for Oracle, but for all critical business software, why bother about 'Oracle is Oracle is Oracle' or 'DB2 isn't UDB isn't DB/400'? Better try to convince users of those 'crap'-OS's to step into the wonderfull world of Unix, where Oracle is still in the lead... Received on Mon Jun 07 2004 - 17:38:20 CDT