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Re: Convert code from SQL Server 2000 to SQL Plus for Oracle

From: Paul Brewer <paul_at_paul.brewers.org.uk>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 18:53:57 +0100
Message-ID: <3e95b045_2@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com>


"Jim Kennedy" <kennedy-down_with_spammers_at_attbi.com> wrote in message news:KB3la.419354$S_4.486893_at_rwcrnsc53...
> Paul,
> Did I say you were too old? Don't remember - I must be having a senior
> moment :-) .
>
> I did work one place where they ended up putting in more functionality and
> generating LESS code. It drove QA nuts; they couldn't figure out how they
> could do that. I agree a lot of times less is more.
> Jim
>
> --
> Replace part of the email address: kennedy-down_with_spammers_at_attbi.com
> with family. Remove the negative part, keep the minus sign. You can
figure
> it out.
> "Paul Brewer" <paul_at_paul.brewers.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:3e94aa58_3_at_mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com...
> > "Karsten Farrell" <kfarrell_at_belgariad.com> wrote in message
> > news:MPG.18fdf44d12c047dc989728_at_news.la.sbcglobal.net...
> > > wizofoz2k_at_yahoo.com.au.nospam said...
> > > > Following up on DA Morgan, 09 Apr 2003:
> > > >
> > > > > Where are the good old days where we got paid by the number of
lines
> > of
> > > > > code?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hah! Can you imagine? A simple J2EE app
> > > > with three or four screens is worth about
> > > > 4Mb of COMPRESSED jar file. Man, that would
> > > > be worth a *fortune* in Cobol lines!
> > > >
> > > > Progress....
> > > > :)
> > > >
> > > A long time ago I worked for the government and one of our contractors
> > > touted their productivity in lines of code in Forms 3 .inp files ...
and
> > > claimed they were some kind of supercoders ... well ahead of the
> > > national average in producing "flawless" code.
> > >
> > > Same with MS Visual C++ MFC ... lots of code and all you've got is an
> > > SDI or MDI window with nothing in it.
> > >
> > > Where will we store software distribution files when they no longer
fit
> > > on a DVD?
> > > --
> >
> > Amen.
> >
> > And when will some revolutionary Project Manager or Development Manager
> > reward those who find a working solution with the *fewest* lines of
code?
> >
> > Simple, common sense idea, around for at least 20 years, but they're
still
> > at it; writing reams. Maybe the idea is to future-proof the developers,
> > since the code produced is too cumbersome, long-winded and verbose to be
> > handed over to anyone else to maintain, so they have an indefinite
> contract.
> >
> > Or is that too cynical an attitude? Maybe Jim K is right; I'm too old.
> >
> > But why don't we just do things *right*? Then the customers would *want*
> us
> > back, rather than just *needing* us back to fix what we broke before.
> >
> > Rant, sorry.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Paul
> >

Jim,

You jested in another thread. I said 'too old' in at attempt to continue the joke. No
offence intended or taken, I hope.

Me, old? Yes, beyond my years. The baldness, paunch and spectacles all tell the same sad story, I'm afraid to say. *Too* old? Never!

Cheers,
Paul Received on Thu Apr 10 2003 - 12:53:57 CDT

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