Re: Infamous JRE Installation Problem with 9i Again. :-(

Without particularly wishing to rub salt in the wounds, I think this is indeed something that can shed important light for others' benefit: never, ever leap to conclusions. And when you stuff up big time, don't rush to blame "bugs" or Oracle's supposed incompetence.

I think these two quotes should be permanently juxtaposed and printed on every newbie's wall:

"I suppose I'll try downloading again, but right now I'm just about to forget
the whole thing and assume that a lot less people out there run Oracle than I previously thought, because with such a buggy installer nobody must be able to even install the darn thing let along run it. :-\" (Post received at 2.07AM)

"Well, I figured it out. It was indeed the CDs. Turns out, that the download (and yes, it was a .zip file not an ISO as I had said previously) has characteristics such that it can only be properly burned to CD with certain settings. In NERO, I had to select Mode 2 rather than Mode 1 and ISO9660 standard isn't comatible either." (Post received at 12.29PM)

(Incidentally, the resolution is in any case somewhat odd, because I've never had any problems downloading the ZIPs, unzipping them onto the hard drive, and burning them (using Nero) onto a plain old 'Data CD' as proferred by the Nero burning wizard.)

Not a dig particularly at you, Brad, by the way: there are far too many posters in general who make mistakes and then claim it's all the product's fault.

Regards
HJR "Brad Melendy" <brad_at_techknow.biz> wrote in message news:sKvi9.97$Rp6.155765_at_news.uswest.net...
> Well, I figured it out. It was indeed the CDs. Turns out, that the
> download (and yes, it was a .zip file not an ISO as I had said previously)
> has characteristics such that it can only be properly burned to CD with
> certain settings. In NERO, I had to select Mode 2 rather than Mode 1 and
> ISO9660 standard isn't comatible either.
>
> I had just burned the uncompressed zip images to CD so I could easily take
> them to the test server and in so doing, had made changes to the format or
> filenames such that the installer couldn't run. Pretty crazy because I've
> copied tons of stuff to CD before, but only now have I ever encountered
this
> sort of situation. It was such that copying back from the CD to the hard
> drive didn't do anyting to fix the problem either.
>
> Anyway, I want to thank everyone for their comments. I don't think I
would
> have suspected the format that the CD had been burned with as a cause on
my
> own. I am certain that there are a lot of other people suffering from
this
> because of the messages I read with the same symptoms and hopefully this
> will shed some light for them as well.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> ...Brad
>
> "Tom Swier" <tswier_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:8098db11.0209190955.11a0383_at_posting.google.com...
> > "Brad Melendy" <brad_at_techknow.biz> wrote in message
> news:<ic6i9.60$dd4.61267_at_news.uswest.net>...
> > > Hi Tom,
> > > Thanks very much for your reply. Here are the details: (which are
very
> much
> > > the same that I have read all over the place):
> > >
> > > As soon as I plop the 9i install CD into the drive, it auto runs and I
> click
> > > INSTALL. Within a couple seconds, I get a message:
> > >
> > > "The Java Runtime Environment was not found at
> > > c:\docume~1\admini~1\locals~1\temp\orainstall\jre\bin\jrew.exe. Hence,
> the
> > > Oracle Universal Installer cannot be run. Please visit
> > > http://www.javasoft.com and install JRE version 1.1.7 or greater and
try
> > > again."
> > >
> > > I had this problem on an existing server so I did a BRAND NEW
> installation
> > > of Windows 2000 Server and then applied SP3. Still same problem. The
> > > processor is a PII-366. What could be wrong?
> > >
> > > I've followed all the steps I have found so far:
> > >
> > > I've tried copying the install disks to the hard drive.
> > > I've tried renaming the symcjit.dll files (all of them).
> > > I've made sure that all the files are not read only (since they came
off
> of
> > > the CD-R)
> > > I've tried downloading various versions of the JRE (from 1.1.8 to 1.4)
> > > I've read the installation .PDF included on the CD.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for any suggestions. I wish I could just get the darn thing to
> > > INSTALL!! But if the installer won't run, what am I to do??
> > >
> > > ...Brad
> > >
> > >
> > > "Tom Swier" <tswier_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:8098db11.0209180320.127e7b86_at_posting.google.com...
> > > > "Brad Melendy" <brad_at_techknow.biz> wrote in message
> > > news:<OIzh9.650$SJ.220011_at_news.uswest.net>...
> > > > > Ok, at the risk of being flamed, how the heck does one get around
> this
> > > > > problem? I've spent about 4 hours doing google searches, reading
> > > messages
> > > > > in the oracle forum at oracle.com and reading messages here.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've got a P-II 366 with 256 mb ram and 10 gig HD (it's a test
> system)
> > > > > running Windows 2000 Advanced Server with SP 3. It is a brand new
> > > > > installation and I can't get Oracle 9i x86 just downloaded from
> oracle
> > > no
> > > > > more than 2 weeks ago.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've tried copying the install disks to the hard drive.
> > > > > I've tried renaming the symcjit.dll files (all of them).
> > > > > I've made sure that all the files are not read only (since they
came
> off
> > > of
> > > > > the CD-R)
> > > > > I've tried downloading various versions of the JRE (from 1.1.8 to
> 1.4)
> > > > > I've read the installation .PDF included on the CD.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm about ready to go out and kill a chicken as a sacrifice! I
have
> a
> > > > > Windows 2000 Pro workstation and it acts the same way.
> > > > >
> > > > > So what else is there? I see this error message being complained
> about
> > > all
> > > > > over the place on google, oracle.com and here.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for any help anyone can give me.
> > > > >
> > > > > ....Brad
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We need a little more information about how this installation is
> > > > failing. I have installed 8.1.6, 8.1.7, 9iR1 and 9iR2 on PIII
machines
> > > > without a hiccup (a pity, how can you learn how to fix it if it
won't
> > > > break). Give us some specific error messages or conditions that you
> > > > encountered during your installs.
> > > >
> > > > Tom Swier
> > > >
> > > > It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are
a
> > > > fool than to open it and remove all doubt. -- Mark Twain
> >
> > I have yet to try an install with Win2K SP3. I have done all of my
> > installs so far on SP2. I have not yet heard of any issues of this
> > kind with SP3 so maybe you're breaking new ground here. If you have a
> > fast internet connection (I'm assuming you do based on what you've
> > said), I would try downloading the Oracle software again. Also, what
> > CD burning software are you using and what settings are you using to
> > burn the CDs? A common thread running through all of this is your
> > statement about downloading the software, burning the CDs and then
> > going from there, i.e., installing from the CD, copying the CD to the
> > hard drive, etc. Just a thought.
> >
> > Tom Swier
> >
> > It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a
> > fool than to open it and remove all doubt. -- Mark Twain
>
>
Received on Thu Sep 19 2002 - 22:34:30 CDT