What does that have to do with the price of bean in China?
"Richard Foote" <richard.foote_at_bigpond.com> wrote in message news:<d7Fh9.34776$g9.97360_at_newsfeeds.bigpond.com>...
> Hi Tingl,
>
> My dear old gran, she loved her gramophone, playing such golden oldies as
> "We'll Meet Again", "White Xmas", "When The Saints Go Marching In" and "A
> Space Oddity". Those old 78s would have a few scratches and sound a bit
> rough, but when the horn was freshly dusted, gee they sounded good. Nothing
> wrong with them at all, they worked just great.
>
> Unfortunately, when the latest Daniel O'Donnell DVD come out, she was
> stuffed. She had no idea what to do, how to work it, how to set it up, had
> no understanding of surround sound, how to use the remote, how to play it or
> even where to put the DVD ("but Richard my dear favourite gran son, where
> the hell is the horn on this thing, the damn horn"). It took her over 2
> hours to work out how to open the case (she was getting on a bit).
>
> Now, do you really want to be like my Gran when you go for a job and they
> ask you questions on 9i ....
>
> Cheers
>
> Richard
> "tingl" <tlam15_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:f487699f.0209160957.2c4d3c51_at_posting.google.com...
> > Nuno Souto <nsouto_at_optushome.com.au.nospam> wrote in message
> news:<3d8336f8$0$18869$afc38c87_at_news.optusnet.com.au>...
> > > 13 Sep 2002 14:20:29 -0700, tingl said (and I quote):
> > > >
> > > > Just launch the installer or any Java based utilities come with 8i,
> > > > see how much memory jre is taking up and how much slower they run. No
> > >
> > > Yeah, but that's hardly Oracle's fault that the jre eats memory, no?
> > > Try a later jre. I find they use less memory since 1.3 came out.
> > >
> >
> > No, Oracle only makes the decision to use Java for that purpose.
> >
> > > > In many respects, I find 7.3.4 easier to manage than 8i. At least I
> > > > don't have to worry about the features I don't need, even the patches
> > > > are much smaller.
> > >
> > > Hmm, obviously you don't have to do much space management in that
> > > database... And moving stuff around. And fine tuning.
> > >
> >
> > You are right and it should not be much work to do it in 7.3.4 either.
> >
> > > > features and have to find out how to remove them. I have never heard
> > > > anybody said 7.3 tunning is harder than 8i.
> > >
> > > Yet it is. There is not much you can do in 7 to tune the database
> > > itself. 8i has so much more that can be done it's not even funny to
> > > compare. Start with the LMTs and the multiple buffer pools and IOT and
> > > go from there. I won't even mention the function-based indexes. Oops,
> I
> > > just did! ;)
> > >
> >
> > I have to disagree. There is a great deal can be tuned in 7.3.4. More
> > features do not have to mean better. Many people convert to LMT just
> > because it is a new feature. In reality, if the database is properly
> > configured there is no need to do so. Many Java based utilities like
> > database and network configuration tools tend to be unreliable, I
> > often resort to doing them manually anyway. BTW, I do not use the
> > features above as they do not benefit our applications.
> >
> > >
> > > > Why buy a VCR with multitude of functions, when all you need is
> > > > playback. It just makes it harder to find the "play" button on your
> > > > remote.
> > >
> > > You may find that most VCR's with multitude of functions also have a
> much
> > > better image quality and can rewind/fast forward a lot quicker.
> >
> > Unfortunately this is not completely true for 8i. If Oracle 8i's new
> > features does not benefit the applications I am using, then it is not
> > any faster than 7.3.4 on my existing hardware. The bottom line
> > question is: If 7.3.4 gives me everything I need, what is the need to
> > upgrade?
Received on Tue Sep 17 2002 - 14:48:48 CDT
