Re: www.microsoft.com sure needs a lot of silicon

Michael Parson (mparson_at_roloc.bl.org) wrote:
: In article <5l03s5$qgl_at_panix.com>, Bryan Althaus <bryan_at_panix.com> wrote:
: >Michael Parson (mparson_at_roloc.bl.org) wrote:
: >: In article <5kvjll$fv6_at_panix.com>, Bryan Althaus <bryan_at_panix.com> wrote:
 

: >: >Where is Oracle, Sybase and Informix? If I want 'Office-suites' I'll
: >: >run Windows 95.
:
: Having two computers just so you can write up your reports in fancy fonts
: can be a pain. I'm guessing that you don't wanna do it in TeX though... =)
:

I dual boot. :)

: >: I've never used Oracle or Informix, but I have run the SCO version Sybase
: >: under Linux (iBCS). The native RDBMS have proven to be better suited for
: >: our needs. Empress has a rather nice SQL engine.
 

: >I not a big RDBMS person, but most companies RDBMS means either Oracle,
: >Sybase or Informix. Oracle is of course king.
: I know that Sybase will run under Linux, but I never stress tested it,
:
: I've heard that it is robust enough to stand its own against SCO. I've
: heard rumors of Oracle running under Linux/iBCS, but I've not seen it.
:

I think you mean the Sybase *client* is available on Linux not the *server*. Correct me if I'm wrong. The server is the RDBMS, the client just allowed you to query the RDBMS.

If you can give us a URL for buying Sybase for Linux I'd be interested. I had to sell out $199 for Sybase 11 for NT to use as client/server.

If Sybase has ported their RDBMS to Linux, more power to them! They have't ported to Solaris x86 yet, even thought it's just a recompile!!!!

: >So an OS that can't run one of the above is at an advantage. All 3
: >have ported to NT to make sure MS SQL makes no inroads.
:
: The SQL engine from MS /is/ ported Sybase code... it is the visual
: frontend that is MS. =) Thankfully, MS, for the most part, left
: the SQL engine alone

Actually MS took the code from Sybase. The GUI part is where MS really shows why they know what people want. I work under HP-Ux running Sybase 11 and all I have is isql command line. NO GUi!! This is crazy for the money we spend on Sybase. You can knock MS but they do have a clue. Oddly, Synase 11 under NT (which I bought) has complete GUI unlike on UNIX!

:
: >: >: Once I recompiled the kernel to include only the hardware that he had,
 

: >: >Why recompile? On Solaris boot -r. It's a dynamic kernel. Why should
: >: >you ever need to recompile a kernel? This went out with SunOS 4.1.3.
 

: >: I'll admit, this is a nice feature of Solaris, kinda surprised me that
: >: this was all I had to do when I installed the SCSI/WD controller.
 

: >Well in somewhat of a defense of Linux, HP-UX 10.20 (latest) still
: >needs you to recompile the kernel for everything. We hit a nproc
: >limit of 275. Instead of just editing /etc/system and rebooting
: >like on Solaris, we had to change a file and rebuild the kernel. Just ugly.
: >And since development machines are Admined by us developers, error prone.
:
: Nothing against you, but having had to support shops like that, I
: much prefer it when they have a sysadmin that I can talk to about
: their netowork problems than a developer that only knows that it
: isn't working ;)
:

What does that have to do with the OS? In my 8 years of developing software, production is key and devlopment is supported second. That fact that HP-UX sucks is not my fault. Our entire company (5,000+ people) use Solaris Sparc. Only our group at the time picked HP since HP's CPU's were faster than Sun's Sparc's. Which I understand since Sun admits they missed and entire generation of CPU's. I have no problem with HP's hardware, but HP-UX plain sucks compared to Solaris.

Still Solaris allows easy admin. Edit /etc/system or boot -r.

: /proc filesystems are your friend.
:
: # echo 4096 > /proc/sys/kernel/file-max
:
: oooh... on a live system even ;)

Not sure what your getting at unless your root... but /proc is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

:
: >: I'm backing out of this thread now...

Liar! :^)

:
: >: As a sysadmin, I'd rather
: >: install and maintain RH Linux. As a Perl developer, I'm pretty happy
: >: under any OS that has a decent perl ported to it.
 

: >Sounds good...
:
: *sigh* but to end this thread, I'm going to have to call you a nasty
: name or something... =)
:

Take care... Received on Fri May 09 1997 - 00:00:00 CDT