DA Morgan wrote:
> Matt Bailey wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 12:01:09 -0800, DA Morgan <damorgan_at_psoug.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> http://store.oracle.com will give you list prices which, in reality,
>>> are near meaningless except as a starting point for discussions.
>>>
>>
>>
>> DA, thanks for the reply. Made me laugh in places :-)
>
>
> Stop! You're going to ruin my reputation.
>
>> I agree that it's a bit of a pants assignment. To be fair though, I
>> didn't give the whole picture. The costings are not the whole
>> assignment - just a small part of a bigger assignment.
>
>
> And this makes it better or worse? ;-)
>
>> The assignment is to implement a thick client and a thin client (web
>> based) interface to a database for a fictional scenario (your choice
>> of development technology and scenario) and to evaluate each
>> development approach. The costing bit was tagged on to the end.
>
>
> So you need to provide 7x24 service which means RAC in the data center
> and likely a second remote data center, also with a RAC cluster and
> using DataGuard for failover. So now we are talking Enterprise Edition.
> Price out 8 CPU licenses. 2x2 node cluster at the primary data center
> and 2x2 node cluster at the remote site.
>
> Instead of figuring in the cost of power conditioning, dielsel
> generators, etc. assume you have an ASP hosting it for you. You
> can get pricing from www.bluegecko.net or others.
>
>> Pasting:
>>
>> --------------------------
>> Include a section costing out your two solutions stating any
>> assumptions. Assume for example :-
>> (i) The Oracle site-licence fee and database server overheads are
>> shared equally between your application and 3 others.
>
>
> Divide by 4?
>
>> (ii) The hourly cost for a Database designer/engineer/tester is
>> £90.
>
>
> So the competency and web surfing habits have to be considered? ;-)
>
>> (iii) Include the first year of maintenance assuming 2 new tables
>> will be added and 3 new screens designed and implemented.
>
>
> Pick any number you wish as adding 2 tables takes less than 1 second.
> Creating 3 screens can take 1 hour to 1 year.
>
>> The estimate need only be approximate but try to include all relevant
>> expenses (assume the client-PCs and network have already been
>> purchased and installed).
>> --------------------------
>
>
> I hope you have a year to produce this.
>
>> Since the cost predictions are based on my own scenario (a chain of
>> Fitness Centres) the answers to your questions are pretty much down to
>> my own envisaging of the fictional company. So there are no fixed
>> requirements for the costing exercise - it's really what I decide
>> myself.
>
>
> Given you are in the European Union I presume you will make sure all
> is in compliance with Basel II.
>
>>> If the point is just to throw some garbage together and claim success
>>> then I'd suggest yougo to store.oracle.com and price out a minimum
>>> license on Oracle SE1, load it on WhiteBox Linux on the least expensive
>>> Dell or Gateway box you can find, perhaps 2.8MHz with a gig of RAM and
>>> declare success.
>>
>>
>> Well, ideally I'd like to make it as realistic an estimate as
>> possible, so I'll do some further investigating, but failing that,
>> this looks like a good option!
>>
>> Matt
>
>
> I still question your professor's sanity unless you have 3 months or
> more to do this. But have a whack at it and don't forget to purchase
> a maintenance agreement on your hardware.
I could run it in service.
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Regards,
Frank van Bortel
Top-posting is one way to shut me up...
Received on Sat Nov 26 2005 - 07:54:27 CST
