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Re: Scribe Report Generator - beta testers needed

From: D Rolfe <dwrolfeFRUITBAT_at_orindasoft.com>
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 09:44:43 +0100
Message-ID: <_7Fqc.8280$qP2.16436@news.indigo.ie>

Alex Molochnikov wrote:
>>Why Alex cannot understand our repeated requests is a mystery.
>
>
>>I've only asked you to be polite. I haven't commanded, demanded,
>>ordained or ruled that you do anything. I neither have nor desire such
>>authority.
>
>
> No, you only "requested" that I go away from the newsgroup that you and four
> other people apparently came to regard as their own. To back up this
> "request" (if yelling, shouting and hurling insults can be called a
> "request") you and the other four pointed me to the group's charter which,
> upon closer examination, turned out to specifically permit such topics as:
>
> Techniques for more efficient access
> Importing and Exporting data
>

You also chose to ignore the charter for comp.databases.oracle.marketplace. But then for someone who has posted a more or less identical message to lots of other newsgroups what should we expect? See:

http://www.google.ie/groups?q=scribe+beta-testers+Alex+Molochnikov+group:comp.*&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&filter=0

You are spaming USENET by making identical posts to multiple newsgroups repeatedly. If what you're doing is OK then why aren't other people doing it?

> Who are these "potential customers"? A group of people, five in
> total, who dismissed our work out of hand, not even trying to pretend that
> they took the time to learn what it is about, but still felt competent
> enough to insult me for defending my right to post into this NG?
>

I have spent several hours revewing your product and web site. I did this to test my theory that "nothing marketed with SPAM is worth owning". I was rapidly able to establish that 'scribe' does not support multiple tables and is therefore useless in the context of Oracle or any other commercially credible RDBMS. The amount of time I spent evaluating your product compares very favourably with the amount of time you spent getting it to work with Oracle.

While I was at your web site I also found the following about your employer's attitude to customers:

http://www.gestalt.com/getit.html#donot

The paragraph above contains the intriguing sentance about what happens when you buy something:

> By requesting this fee-based License upgrade, you are signifying your satisfaction
> with the chosen Product based on your demo experience and you irrevocably waive
> your right to any charge-back (refusing the credit card charge on your account)
> for any reason whatsoever.

In plain English:

If you buy a product from gestalt they won't give you your money back under any circumstances.

Considering the product is software and that an individual download costs the vendor almost nothing why such an extreme policy? Is it that they have had problems with chargebacks in the past? Even if I liked their product I wouldn't do business with someone like this.

> People, who - inspite of being (presumably) professionals - behave like a
> gang of school bullies, interested only in harrassment and domination, and
> at times looking more like sharks in a feeding frenzy. People, who could not
> stomach the idea that some automated tool can render their unique and
> indispensable skills useless, and engaged into a smear campaign against it
> and its developers.
>

People have been trying to automate software development since, oh, 1985. People with more money and intelligence than gestalt. Nobody has succeeded. Why should we take you any more seriously than a perpetual motion machine vendor or a cold fusion advocate?

"smear campaign"? That phrase implies that I have lied. I evaluated your product and came to the conclusion it was useless. You have chosen to ignore my comments on it. I have 750 times more experience with Oracle than you do. Doesn't that make you a teeny bit curious? Everything I have said about scribe is backed up by facts, usually taken from your own website.

> - I will continue to post my invitation to test our report generator, but
> this invitation, naturally, will exclude you and your "supporters". I will
> do this regularly, until we get the desired amount of feedback from the
> users.

In other words: Forever. Received on Wed May 19 2004 - 03:44:43 CDT

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