Re: Need advice on web host

From: Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu>
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 18:00:57 -0800
Message-ID: <1080957638.820889@yasure>

Ed prochak wrote:

> Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message news:<1080617160.871395_at_yasure>...
>

>>Teresa Redmond wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hello again,
>>>
>>>My latest quest is to find a web host that runs Oracle as the back end
>>>database.  I have Googled, and Asked Jeeves, and I would like your
>>>input also.  I need the host to be able to provide security that the
>>>US Navy would find acceptable (if possible, I don't expect to actually
>>>find anything I can use) and that would allow myself and one other
>>>developer access to the database via Developer and Enterprise Manager
>>>(foremost on our list), as well as the various people who would be
>>>connecting to the database via Forms/Reports that we have already.
>>>Not sure if we definitely need web space, just a static IP and the
>>>database + storage, at least at first.  Eventual goal is to web
>>>enable, but I'm not sure of how that's gonna go at this point.
>>>
>>>This is pretty much a useless search, because we are trying to explain
>>>why the customer needs Oracle vice an online document repository.
>>>Since Oracle generates the documents via the Forms and Reports that
>>>our company has developed, and the online repository just holds
>>>uploads of the documents, we've got that part of the issue under
>>>control.  But we also have to provide information on other options,
>>>such as hosting with a commercial vendor.  Unfortunately, the
>>>information I've found has been pretty lightweight, and mostly aimed
>>>at your average Joe who wants his/her own website.

>
>
> Companies like mine are harder to find. We actually keep a very low
> profile, relying more on personal comtact than getting business from
> our web site (which is a basic cybershingle).
>
>

>>>I appreciate any pointers you guys can give me.  :-)
>>
>>I don't believe you will find what you need for the simple reason that
>>any organization hosting will have access to the data and thus
>>compromise your security by definition.

>
>
> My company does hosting using ORACLE or other databases as needed.
> Yes, we do have access to their data (Well at least the admins. do.)
> It certainly makes some support issues easier. We've had very good
> success in keeping out hackers. And in this case that has to be some
> level of trust (otherwise our clients would host the sites
> internally).
>
>

>>The best choice is to find a company, and there are many, that will
>>host your server. They provide the infrastructure, the pipe, and the
>>backup generators. You provide the server, the Oracle software and
>>any other tools you require. That way you, and only you, have the root
>>and Oracle passwords.

>
>
>
> And companies such as mine can do it this way too. But the other case
> is a strong point for a smaller company like mine. We can limit the
> number of folks having access your (the navy's) data to the bare
> minimum. We are located near Cleveland, Ohio, and currently have only
> US citizens as employees.
>
>
> Yes this is a blantant act of self promotion, but she asked for
> examples. So while this skirts the line between here and the
> *.marketplace topics, I'll argue that the above is on-topic here since
> it's answering her question and providing specific support of Daniel's
> points.
>
> And the .sig is not too extreme is it?
> Ed
>
> Edward J. Prochak --- Magic Interface, Ltd.
> Ofc: 440-498-3700 --- 7295 Popham Place, Solon, OH 44139
> on the web at --- http://www.magicinterface.com
> email: ed.prochak_at_magicinterface.com

I'm not offended by your post ... as it was responsive. But I would really hope you quote this morons a price so high they go back to protecting the country rather than pennies.

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