RE: Community Announcement: NoCOUG 2016 Spring Conference: Where SQL and NoSQL come together (with hands-on labs and cherries on top)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 08:48:04 -0700
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re: The "relational database management systems have some catching up to do in certain specialized use-cases such as event processing" quote in context. It was a paraphrase of statements made by Oracle. In the white white paper that accompanied the release of Oracle NoSQL Database, Oracle said: “The Oracle NoSQL Database, with its ‘No Single Point of Failure’ architecture, is the right solution when data access is ‘simple’ in nature and application demands exceed the volume or latency capability of traditional data management solutions [emphasis added]. For example, click-stream data from high volume web sites, high-throughput event processing and social networking communications all represent application domains that produce extraordinary volumes of simple keyed data. Monitoring online retail behavior, accessing customer profiles, pulling up appropriate customer ads and storing and forwarding real-time communication are examples of domains requiring the ultimate in low-latency access. Highly distributed applications such as real-time sensor aggregation and scalable authentication also represent domains well-suited to Oracle NoSQL Database.”Andy Mendelsohn said as much at the “Making SQL Great Again (SQL is Huuuuuge)” at YesSQL Summit 2016. The complete video of the panel discussion has been published by Oracle Corporation on the Oracle Channel on YouTube. I posted the transcript on my blog.A NoSQL management systems is a physical optimization for certain use-cases and therefore is faster than relational database management systems for the use-cases for which it has been physically optimized. See The Rise and Fall of the NoSQL Empire with comments by Chris Date. Iggy
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 11:24:39 -0400
Subject: Re: Community Announcement: NoCOUG 2016 Spring Conference: Where SQL and NoSQL come together (with hands-on labs and cherries on top)
From: troach_at_gmail.com
To: tim_at_evdbt.com
CC: rfreeman_at_businessolver.com; iggy_fernandez_at_hotmail.com; oracle-l_at_freelists.org
Oracle also has a very compelling NoSQL database. In some testing a customer did, they found it to be VERY fast compared to other NoSQL offerings. It is based on the Oracle Berkeley DB (Java Edition). On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Tim Gorman <tim_at_evdbt.com> wrote:
I'd guess that it is not a quote, but an interpretation of actions by Oracle. Why else would they offer a Big Data Appliance based on Hadoop, and support Big Data connectors, etc?
It is one thing to pivot the entire company in a single direction. Oracle Cloud is not "some catching up", but direction for the entire corporate. Oracle has made no pretense to make a "Big Data" their focus.
It is another thing to offer a capability to augment existing capabilities (i.e. Big Data) - this is not a refutation of either relational technology nor an embrace of Big Data and NoSQL, but rather an acknowledgement that the need exists and the capability should be supported.
So interpreting these actions as admission that "relational database management systems have some catching up to do in certain specialized use-cases such as event processing" is reasonable, in my opinion.
Just my own US$0.02... maybe there really is an underlying quote in context... :)
On 5/2/16 08:54, Robert Freeman wrote: Can you source this quote from Oracle? I’d be very interested in reading it in context…. Robert From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of Iggy Fernandez Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 2:43 AM To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org Subject: OT: Community Announcement: NoCOUG 2016 Spring Conference: Where SQL and NoSQL come together (with hands-on labs and cherries on top) The inventor of relational theory, Dr. Edgar Codd, had the last word on NoSQL more than thirty years ago when he said “Only if the performance requirements are extremely severe should buyers rule out present relational DBMS products.” The bottom line is that Oracle professionals need to learn about NoSQL since, as admitted by Oracle Corporation, relational database management systems have some catching up to do in certain specialized use-cases such as event processing. Our conference director has therefore created a fabulous agenda combining the best of SQL and NoSQL (with hands-on labs and cherries on top). The conference is free for members and their guests, first-time NoCOUG conference attendees, PayPal employees and students. Register at http://nocoug.org/rsvp.html.
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