RE: Total Recall License - but out of compliance - what?

From: Mark W. Farnham <mwf_at_rsiz.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 14:03:22 -0400
Message-ID: <06b001d072ef$797e87b0$6c7b9710$_at_rsiz.com>

Yes, you do use “total recall” and it has a nice heading. Fortunately that is free.  

Then they scan for use of advanced compression without a nice heading (no rows selected).  

I’m just reading the report, which apparently they cannot do. Please notice it clearly reports:  

“no rows selected”

immediately before

If any rows are returned then ADVANCED COMPRESSION OPTION is in use  

I offer no opinion about whether this is intentionally confusing, but the report you posted records “no rows selected” for the ACO check.  

mwf  

PS: There is a long history of the users groups going to bat against whip-sawing folks into additional license requirements when a component of a feature is broken out as a licensed option. The original case and agreement stemmed from WORKFLOW in the E-Business Suite, if memory serves.  

From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of Seth Miller Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 1:41 PM
To: Chris Taylor
Cc: Hans Forbrich; Oracle-L Freelists
Subject: Re: Total Recall License - but out of compliance - what?  

Is that FDA optimized?  

Is this 11.2.0.4? (hint: the licensing requirements changed from 11.2.0.3 to 11.2.0.4)  

Seth Miller  

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Chris Taylor <christopherdtaylor1994_at_gmail.com> wrote:

Now I'm confused. We got dinged on this for an 11.2 database in the Advanced Compression checks:    

• Checking for "Flashback Data Archive (Total Recall)" feature usage

FLASHBACK_ARCHIVE_NAME         TABLESPACE_NAME                QUOTA_IN_MB  RETENTION_IN_DAYS CREATE_TIME           LAST_PURGE_TIME       STATUS 

------------------------------ ------------------------------ ------------ ----------------- --------------------- --------------------- -------- 

ORION_FL_ARCHIVE               ORION_FLASHBACK_ARCHIVE                                    90                       2014-11-05_12:24:27 

1 row selected.

no rows selected

If any rows are returned then ADVANCED COMPRESSION OPTION is in use      

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Seth Miller <sethmiller.sm_at_gmail.com> wrote:

Chris,  

Total Recall is not part of Advanced Compression. The Total Recall feature consisted in part of Flashback Data Archive (FDA). In Database 12c, Total Recall is now called "Temporal" which includes "Temporal History" and "Temporal Validity" and is an included feature. 12c continues to feature FDA to support a number of the flashback technologies including a number of new features.  

In 11g, the FDA's were "optimized" -- compressed with advanced compression and deduplicated with SecureFiles. In 12c, this optimization is optional and has to be explicitly defined. You also have the option of how much and what kind of optimization (advanced row compression, advanced LOB compression and ADO) you want to use per FDA. In order to use these, you need to be licensed for advanced compression.  

Seth Miller  

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Hans Forbrich <fuzzy.graybeard_at_gmail.com> wrote:

You will need to discuss this with your purchasing department, who should have the original contract, and with Oracle, who need to provide the information about the exact date and terms under which the options were merged.

In the past, Oracle would usually document the merge of options, would generally provide a 'restricted use' license of the surviving option, and would document which capabilities in the new license are included (and sometime which are NOT to be used) in the restricted use license.

However, please verify that you are using only the original Total Recall and not the compressed version. The original became free. I'm not sure the compressed actually existed before being folded into Adv. Compression, but I have no proof either way.

/Hans

On 09/04/2015 6:37 AM, Chris Taylor wrote:

Guys,  

I know this touches on a licensing discussion but my questions are a little different.  

We have 2 Total Recall Licenses:

1 - 8 Proc Full Use - expires 10/12/2015

1 - 200 Named User Plus full use - expires 10/12/2015  

However, Total Recall "went away" at some point and was rolled into Advanced Compression.  

Question #1:

Does anyone know when Total Recall was no longer an option outside of Advanced Compression?  

Second part - we are getting dinged by Oracle for not having Advanced Compression licensed because we were using flashback data logs (Total Recall).  

Question #2:

Anyone have any input on how we can have a support agreement for Total Recall (part of Advanced Compression) and not have Advanced Compression - thereby getting dinged on the audit for non-compliance?  

Regards,

Chris Taylor        

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