RE: EM 12c Snap Clone: any one try it? using it?
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 17:35:41 -0400
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A common way to show the options that cannot be currently run is to have them appear “grayed out.” I give a plus one to applications that allow you to right click to get a useful explanation of why it is grayed out. Reasons might be “not installed = <link to install>” or “lack security clearance of <name of missing credential>” or “feature requires storage plugins and no storage plugins are installed - <link to install plugins>”. (Those are straw men, but I hope useful ones.)
Of course EM might just be so rich in features that it becomes too busy to routinely show all the unavailable functions. For situations like this, it is STILL a plus one to be able to toggle the display to show all the feature navigations even if they are unavailable. Again possibly grayed out. Having some way to see all the navigations including the ones that can’t function right now tends to be useful to following documentation written by folks that have different things available than you do.
mwf
From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of Peter Sharman
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 4:59 PM
To: kylelf_at_gmail.com
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Subject: RE: EM 12c Snap Clone: any one try it? using it?
There are quite a number of customers using Snap Clone, some referencable, some not. Maybe they just don’t follow this list? J
Coming back to your earlier question on not seeing the Storage Registration link. I can’t actually prove this at the moment as I don’t have an installation that doesn’t already have storage plugins installed, but I suspect what you’re seeing would be expected behavior. Why have a link that you can’t use at all since you haven’t already installed a storage plugin, be that ZFS as in your case, NetApp, or EMC?
Regarding loading the opar file – that’s normally only an operation you need to perform if your installation is in offline mode for Self Update. Is that your scenario?
Pete
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From: kyle Hailey [mailto:kylelf_at_gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:41 AM
To: Peter Sharman
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Subject: Re: EM 12c Snap Clone: any one try it? using it?
By the way, is no one using this? I've gotten 0 responses ...
- Kyle
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 12:30 PM, kyle Hailey <kylelf_at_gmail.com> wrote:
Looking to document it as a recipe that someone can follow instead of the marketing idea.
For example after installing EM 12c 12.1.0.4 you won't be able to see the "Storage registration" menu option until you
missing "setup -> Provisioning and Patching -> Storage Registration" have to add metalink credentials for the following to work, alternatively :
get 12.1.0.5.0_oracle.sun.oss7_2000_0.opar
from
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/oem/grid-control/downloads/zfs-storage-plugin-487867.html <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.oracle.com%2Ftechnetwork%2Foem%2Fgrid-control%2Fdownloads%2Fzfs-storage-plugin-487867.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfYYM_MTqTcuSG-jiDFciEGHiwwxQ> and use CLI to register that this exists as a pluggin before installing (what is the command to run here?)
setup->Extensibility -> Self Update
searched for the "plugin" folder and clicked it
clicked on "plugin" menu item
clicked on "Server, Storage, and Network" folder
chose "Oracle Storage Management Framework"
after installing that the "Storage registration" menu shows up
- Kyle
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Peter Sharman <pete.sharman_at_oracle.com> wrote:
Why yes, I believe I have once or twice! J
And here are a couple of blog posts I wrote on it to help you get started with yours. ;)
https://blogs.oracle.com/oem/entry/snap_clone_using_emc_san
http://petewhodidnottweet.com/2014/11/will-the-real-snap-clone-functionality-please-stand-up/
That last one is of course prior to the January plug-in release so it didn’t include the information on Snap Clone with EMC and ASM that the first one covered.
You’ll also find the slides I presented at RMOUG TD 2015 at http://www.slideshare.net/PeteSharman/using-snap-clone-with-enterprise-manager-12c.
Pete
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Pete Sharman
Database Architect, DBaaS
Enterprise Manager Product Suite
33 Benson Crescent CALWELL ACT 2905 AUSTRALIA
Phone: <tel:+61262924095> +61262924095 | | Fax: +61262925183 | | Mobile: +61414443449 <tel:%2B61414443449>
"Controlling developers is like herding cats."
Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook
"Oh no, it's not, it's much harder than that!"
Bruce Pihlamae, long term Oracle DBA
From: kyle Hailey [mailto:kylelf_at_gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 2:24 AM
To: ORACLE-L
Subject: EM 12c Snap Clone: any one try it? using it?
Would be interested in sharing experiences and questions.
here is an old blog post I did
http://datavirtualizer.com/em-12c-snap-clone/
I'm working on a new one with EM 12.1.0.4
- Kyle
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