Re: OEL 7
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 11:56:25 -0500
Message-ID: <CAJvnOJY1NFHW=0F1Xp51=Qkr4ZoDZwuBjVq+Oyu-Q70AyxvTUg_at_mail.gmail.com>
Yes, you described what I do. The big irritation is that there is a lot of time wasted going back and fixing things after the initial installation. It appears that OL7 is a step backward when it comes to quick and easy os installation.
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 3:00 AM, Tim Hall <tim_at_oracle-base.com> wrote:
> RHEL7 started life as a branch of Fedora19, with bits of Fedora20
> back-ported to it. The default window manager in Fedora is GNOME3. As
> has been pointed out, this is not Oracle's fault. They are honouring
> their pledge to stay compatible with the upstream vendor (Red Had).
>
> There was talk of RHEL7 using the MATE window manager (which I use for
> my desktop at home), which effectively looks like the old GNOME2 we
> know and love?, but is built on the GNOME3 plumbing underneath.
> Unfortunately, this didn't happen. So now we are left with this
> wretched interface!
>
> My suggestions:
>
> 1) Do a minimal installation and install the prerequisite packages
> yourself. Once this version is certified and the
> "oracle-rdbms-server-12cR1-preinstall" is released, that will be very
> easy. Note. It will install some X11 packages, but not a window
> manager, so any X stuff will need to be done using an client Xserver
> (like MobaXterm). :)
>
> 2) Learn to do things from the command line. For your typical Oracle
> installation, that is really simple. Shameless plug, but I have a
> bunch of stuff here that will help on that front
> (http://www.oracle-base.com/articles/linux/articles-linux.php).
>
> 3) Your server installations should be as lean as possible. There is a
> lot to be said for avoiding GUI installs where possible as they often
> include a whole slew of other packages that increase the potential for
> security flaws.
>
> 4) I really, really don't like SELinux. I know how to configure it.
> I've used it for years at home and on some non-Oracle servers at work.
> I just think it is clumsy and doesn't play well with a number of
> packages, even within the Linux distro. That's just my opinion
> though... I'm sure the haters will hate, but I always set it to
> Permissive on Oracle servers (DB and App Servers).
>
> 5) Especially in RAC builds, unless you know what you are doing, turn
> the firewall off during the install. Get everything working, then turn
> it on and sort it out. I can't tell you how many times I've had people
> struggling with stuff because they've not configured their firewall
> correctly.
>
> I've no idea how long it will take Oracle to certify on OL7, but the
> 12.1.0.2 build installs really cleanly on it, so maybe it will be
> quicker than the year+ it took them to certify on OL6. :)
>
> 11.2.0.4 is supposibly the last patch to 11gR2. It currently doesn't
> install cleanly on OL7 because of 1 missing flag. Unless Oracle
> release 11.2.0.5 so you can do a straight install without needing a
> manual hack, I can't see how they can certify 11gR2 against OL7. I
> mean they could, but it would look shoddy... :)
>
> Cheers
>
> Tim...
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>
>
-- Andrew W. Kerber 'If at first you dont succeed, dont take up skydiving.' -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-lReceived on Sat Aug 02 2014 - 18:56:25 CEST