Re: Semi-OT: Vi Question/Need

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Nuno Souto
dbvision_at_iinet.net.au


On 19/03/2013 7:52 PM, Mark W. Farnham wrote:

> Right. so cut comes out of the  box with pretty much all flavors of


 > UNIX, including the plagiarized ones. You can get it on windows by

 > installing waterloo or cygwin, or pretty much any windows compatible

 > unix-like toolset.


True. Never said otherwise, from the very start.
cygwin would be my preference but that is highly subjective.

> Vim can be added (or is present  by default) to various flavors of


 > UNIX and windows and fruit based human interfaces, which seems is the

 > case for William.


No. Vim is MOST CERTAINLY not available by default on various flavors of 
Unix.
It is available natively in Linux and it must be installed in Windows. 
Linux is not Unix.
There is a fundamental difference there: default, vs custom.

> Youse guys don't really  disagree, you're just talking past each


 > other.


"Other way around, surely" is not past each other.

It is a clear and obvious insinuation that what I said is wrong.

It is not.
Of course: defaults can be changed.  Did I ever claim the opposite?


> I'm not sure what default  utility there is on windows to do


 > the described functionality. But you can have either cut or Vim

 > pretty easily (but neither automatically on all the things that pass

 > for operating systems these days unless some corporate install group

 > supplied it.)


I don't think there is any native to Windows.  Although I'm sure 
something could be knocked up with powershell in Win7 and later.  Or 
even inside sqlplus using an external table! Heck, the sky is the limit 
there!
Never felt the need to go past Unix shell available in cygwin and Vim 
for the really nasty jobs.

The problem with all that is exactly what you point out: corporate 
desktop nazis who insist in one shade of grey across the board, although 
desktops for IT are obviously used in a different way from desktops used 
by bean counters.

Result?  What Yong, Tanel, you, I, William and a lot of others might 
prefer and set up is not necessarily what the corporate nazis do.

As such, I tend to concentrate on knowing how to do things on vanilla 
installs and never expect some corporate desktop to match what I 
personally use in my laptop.
Hence, I also do not recommend what is on my laptop: not everyone will 
be able to install it.

Why is the above so hard to understand?




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