Re: asmlib
From: William Muriithi <william.muriithi_at_gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:08:54 -0400
Message-ID: <CAE9rU+7SVffbHXyFPp79xLvw6MAan74HwEPN2FfkAOXr+z=7Dg_at_mail.gmail.com>
Tim,
> Just to add a little extra to the story...
>
> Oracle manage ASMLib for RHEL5, but said they would stop doing so for
> RHEL6. They told both SUSE and Red Hat they are happy for them to
> continue supporting ASMLib on their distros in a similar manner to the
> way Oracle do with UEK, having the kernel module in there by default.
> SUSE have done this and RHEL have not.
>
> You can blame Oracle for the lack of ASMLib on RHEL and consider this
> part of an evil pot to undermine Red Hat, or you can blame Red Hat for
> refusing to do their bit to support their customers who run Oracle.
> The choice is yours.
>
Ah, its more straight forward than that. When you sign up for redhat support, they are very specific on what applications or software they are responsible for. ASMlib was not part of that even on rhel5. So its not correct to say they are failing to support their customers if the customers knew fully well those software are not supported when signing up. The problems came up when oracle started going for redhat customers. Naturally, redhat had to protect its self interest which meant packaging the kernel in a way that made supporting modules without redhat blessing a tad harder. Considering oracle had started that game, why would it be surprising Redhat was not willing to make ASMlib part of their support especially when there was a supported alternative already ?
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:08:54 -0400
Message-ID: <CAE9rU+7SVffbHXyFPp79xLvw6MAan74HwEPN2FfkAOXr+z=7Dg_at_mail.gmail.com>
Tim,
> Just to add a little extra to the story...
>
> Oracle manage ASMLib for RHEL5, but said they would stop doing so for
> RHEL6. They told both SUSE and Red Hat they are happy for them to
> continue supporting ASMLib on their distros in a similar manner to the
> way Oracle do with UEK, having the kernel module in there by default.
> SUSE have done this and RHEL have not.
>
> You can blame Oracle for the lack of ASMLib on RHEL and consider this
> part of an evil pot to undermine Red Hat, or you can blame Red Hat for
> refusing to do their bit to support their customers who run Oracle.
> The choice is yours.
>
Ah, its more straight forward than that. When you sign up for redhat support, they are very specific on what applications or software they are responsible for. ASMlib was not part of that even on rhel5. So its not correct to say they are failing to support their customers if the customers knew fully well those software are not supported when signing up. The problems came up when oracle started going for redhat customers. Naturally, redhat had to protect its self interest which meant packaging the kernel in a way that made supporting modules without redhat blessing a tad harder. Considering oracle had started that game, why would it be surprising Redhat was not willing to make ASMlib part of their support especially when there was a supported alternative already ?
William
> I've heard Wim speak about this and I believe there is a blog post out
> there in the blogsphere explaining this somewhere.
>
> Cheers
>
> Tim...
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