RE: Oracle Enterprise Linux and Linux Standard Base (LSB)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 08:41:40 -0400
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In the end to me it seems like a cute strategy to kill RH Over time. Unless RH can and it is difficult to see how they can without the testing resources of ORACLE, RH will be more and more dependent on ORACLE to get these "performance" improvements (considering that ORACLE is the big game for Linux and RH).
Then ORACLE in the name of early releases, more testing etc etc, and even maybe some patenting around some very specific technologies(SSD) or tying its code to ORACLE kernel will kill RH. Even in a best case the RH performance will be delayed by 8-12 months pushing it out of the game.
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To: tim_at_oracle-base.com; Ray Stell
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Subject: RE: Oracle Enterprise Linux and Linux Standard Base (LSB)
Tim,
Question is how hardware (eg fiber channel cards) and third party
software such as SymantecNetBackup will be certified against this kernel
/ linux.
Currently many of them just say next to OEL "see Redhat", but now with
the separate kernel ...?
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Freek D'Hooge
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--- From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of Tim Hall Sent: zaterdag 2 oktober 2010 17:17 To: Ray Stell Cc: Jared Still; Oracle-L Freelists Subject: Re: Oracle Enterprise Linux and Linux Standard Base (LSB) Hi. Judging by what was being said at OOW, I think many of the existing Oracle systems will move across quite quickly. It's not a difficult change for an exisitng OEL/RHEL 5.5 system. Stuff on older RHEL versions will be more problematic. It was suggested that product certification will take place against the Oracle Kernel prior to the RHEL kernel, since it is their intention that we should all be using the Oracle Kernel anyway. Not sure if it will actually work out that way. Regarding Solaris, well it becoming a primary development platform (along with Linux and Windows) just means the versions will come out quicker for Solaris (allegedly) than they currently do because they won't have to wait to be ported from the completed Linux version. As you say, it doesn't necessarily mean support will have a Solaris box available to test. Regarding Solaris on Exadata and Exalogic. Not sure what the demand for this will be. Either way you are getting Intel kit, so I guess it depends on how deeply in love with Solaris you are. :) Cheers Tim... On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Ray Stell <stellr_at_cns.vt.edu> wrote: On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 03:47:50PM +0100, Tim Hall wrote:Received on Mon Oct 04 2010 - 07:41:40 CDT
> but Oracle are
> moving over to it themselves, including in their appliances,
so it's a safe
> bet that it will end up being more thoroughly tested with
Oracle products
> than the RHEL kernel in the near future.
WRT the solaris jilt, when I went through that phase, the support folks did not have any systems to test on to verify results. Release of software was always way behind RHEL, but I was already gone by then. Coming to a theatre near you? -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l Please visit our website at http://financialservicesinc.ubs.com/wealth/E-maildisclaimer.html for important disclosures and information about our e-mail policies. For your protection, please do not transmit orders or instructions by e-mail or include account numbers, Social Security numbers, credit card numbers, passwords, or other personal information. -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l