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To a certain extent I disagree with Niall. His issue with extra
privileges in development is the reason you need at least a 3 tier
environment, In development, the developer should have any privileges
that are helpful for him to get his job done. In the prod-cert
environment, or qa environment, or whatever you want to call it is where
you make sure it runs in the reduced set of privileges that the
application is allowed in production. Its more a matter of design and
development philosophy than anything else.
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[mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of Niall Litchfield
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 1:15 PM
To: rgravens_at_gmail.com
Cc: DennisCutshall_at_mail.und.nodak.edu; oracle-l_at_freelists.org
Subject: Re: Sql Developer
On 6/12/07, Rumpi Gravenstein <rgravens_at_gmail.com> wrote:
What a user can browse is more a reflection on the privileges you've given the user than insight into a tool's capabilities. In the case you've described, any user that can logon as Scott will be able to browse the same objects. What the tool is doing for you is shining some light on the privileges the Scott account has been granted. I would think that in a development setting this would be a good thing as many of the system objects should be helpful in the building of your applications. In production the privileges should be limited to what is needed.
An old curmudgeon disagrees. My take is that in development privileges
granted to the development schemas should only be what is needed as
well, and moreover that those privileges should be explicitly granted to
the development schema either directly or through a role as appropriate
(how I wish PL/SQL understood roles!). If you don't do this the
following will happen and be resolved in one of two ways.
The production schema will not be granted sufficient rights.
Put another way what I am saying is that if it isn't done right in dev then it will either not be done right in production or a different version of the app will be being run in production.
Meanwhile someone originally asked about sqldeveloper! I think it's a great tool but one that badly suffers from being an online development environment and not a file based environment (that is the paradigm is that you edit objects, don't create scripts), I don't mind an online environment so long as it generates a repeatable, bulletproof build process. sqldeveloper doesn't do that yet. (at least not straightforwardly). It is however my third favourite IDE which isn't bad considering how long the others have existed.
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