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RE: Datafile sizes - talking about RMAN block recover now...

From: Reidy, Ron <Ron.Reidy_at_arraybiopharma.com>
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 14:29:15 -0600
Message-ID: <7209E76DACFED9469D4F5169F9880C7A67588E@mail01bldr.arraybp.com>


Use bbed - http://orafaq.com/papers/dissassembling_the_data_block.pdf

--
Ron Reidy
Lead DBA
Array BioPharma, Inc.

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Subject: RE: Datafile sizes - talking about RMAN block recover now...


How do I generate/create physical and logical block corruption in test
environment to test block recover.

Database : 9i & 10gR2
OS : Solaris

Standard precautions will be followed : test environment only with full
backup
before test etc. etc.

Thanks
Mayen Shah



 

 

 

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I'm less trusting of blockrecover than you are I think... :-) My hit
ratio
with blockrecover is probably hovering around 50%. I will say that the
sample is somewhat small though! :-)

Anyone else want to share their experiences with blockrecover?

RF

Robert G. Freeman
Oracle Consultant/DBA/Author
Principal Engineer/Team Manager
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
Father of Five, Husband of One,
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From: Christo Kutrovsky [mailto:kutrovsky.oracle_at_gmail.com]
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Subject: Re: Datafile sizes


I personally use bigfiles in ASM. I dont even consider the time to
restore a hugefile, because I do not forsee the need to restore only a
chunk of a tablespace. If I am restoring the entire tablespace, it
doesn't matter how many files I have.

If I have corrupted blocks, I would use RMAN's blockrecover command.

--
Christo Kutrovsky
Senior Database/System Administrator
The Pythian Group - www.pythian.com
I blog at http://www.pythian.com/blogs/


On 5/2/07, Robert Freeman <robertgfreeman_at_yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> Wow... that makes for a long dba_data_files query!! My personal
thought on
> this is for BIG databases, I like to time how long it takes to restore
a
> given datafile size. If I need to recover a given datafile, how long
do I
> want that to take? My general rule is no more than 10-15 minutes
(depending
> on any SLA's of course!). So if it takes 15 minutes to restore 20GB,
that
> would be my datafile size (assuming the OS can handle a datafile of
that
> size and so on).
>
> I much prefer fewer, larger datafiles to more, smaller ones. Much
easier to
> manage among other things.
>
> RF
>
>
> Robert G. Freeman
> Oracle Consultant/DBA/Author
> Principle Engineer/Team Manager
> The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
> Father of Five, Husband of One,
> Author of various geeky computer titles
> from Osborne/McGraw Hill (Oracle Press)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org]On
> Behalf Of daniel.hubler_at_aurora.org
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:50 AM
> To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
> Subject: Datafile sizes
>
>
> Looking for comments & experiences regarding sizes of datafiles.
>
> We have a large (6+ TB) OLTP database, which currently has 2300+
datafiles.
> A while ago, we stopped adding datafiles and were exclusively
extending
> them.
> But we are wondering how far we can/should go, with the size of
individual
> data files.
> Currently about 30% of the datafiles are at 8 gig.
>
> BTW - this particular application resides on VMS.
>
>
> Any ideas/thoughts/comments would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Dan Hubler
> Database Administrator
> Aurora Healthcare
> daniel.hubler_at_aurora.org
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