RE: OEM justification

Oh No, say it isn't so. I just came down to earth considering a proposal for diagnostics and tuning. This definitely means yet another pack! These guys are going to say 'you do it'... you do it so well now :), and it's already paid for..... Hmmm, I thought that part could be done with the free portion of OEM.

Where's my beer.. it's only 8:30am. #$@%@

Joel Patterson
Database Administrator
joel.patterson_at_crowley.com
x72546
904 727-2546

-----Original Message-----
From: Niall Litchfield [mailto:niall.litchfield_at_gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 8:08 AM
To: Patterson, Joel; mzito_at_gridapp.com; Brandon.Allen_at_oneneck.com; oracle-l_at_freelists.org
Subject: Re: OEM justification

your ps is true with either the configuration pack or the change pack - i think the former.

On 3/26/07, Joel.Patterson_at_crowley.com <Joel.Patterson_at_crowley.com> wrote:
> Oh my God. Yes, excellent journey...
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> I'm back now; (I was just envisioning this happening).
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> I'll give the proposal a try though, at least for diagnostics pack on
> one server, $12,000, (throw in Tuning Pack), $12,000. (with my 50%
> discount 'cause we are so small)... $12,000. :-) What can they say?
> No?
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> But we have two more! $72,000/2 = $36,000 for minimum coverage:
"What
> a deal, eh?"
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> I'm now happy, and my sales rep; she is quite happy. ...Better than
a
> credit card.
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> BTW:
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> P.S. Is it true that I can create an account and hand it off to 'a
data
> owner', and he can click a job (so to speak), that will refresh a
> development database residing on a physically different server than
the
> production database? ('cloning' I believe - as opposed to me doing it
> via RMAN duplicating -- where I have to physically ftp all the
> archives/backups over first). (OEM will do the file movement or
> creation)?
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> Joel Patterson
> Database Administrator
> joel.patterson_at_crowley.com
> x72546
> 904 727-2546
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> From: Matthew Zito [mailto:mzito_at_gridapp.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 2:38 PM
> To: Brandon.Allen_at_OneNeck.com; Patterson, Joel; oracle-l_at_freelists.org
> Subject: RE: OEM justification
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> Yes, each pack is licensed separately per processor per host being
> managed. Monitoring is free.
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> Config mgmt: $3k/processor
> Change mgmt: $3k/processor
> tuning pack: $3k/processor
> Diagnostics: $3k/processor
> Provisioning: $3k/processor
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> Sooo.... for one 4 processor server for all of the grid control
> functionality, $60k list. Hey, they'll drop you a 50% discount, to
> $30k. Spend that across your whole environment, and for one three
> server environment you're up to almost $100k in licensing costs. Not
to
> mention annual support, etc.
>
> What a deal, eh?
>
> Matt
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> --
> Matthew Zito
> Chief Scientist
> GridApp Systems
> P: 646-452-4090
> mzito_at_gridapp.com
> http://www.gridapp.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org on behalf of Allen, Brandon
> Sent: Mon 3/26/2007 12:37 PM
> To: Joel.Patterson_at_crowley.com; oracle-l_at_freelists.org
> Subject: RE: OEM justification
>
> My understanding is that Grid Control is free as long as you're using
it
> to monitor other licensed products - see "Infrastructure Repository
> Databases" here:
>

http://download-east.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/license.102/b14199/edi
> tions.htm#CJAHFHBJ
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> It's the additional management packs that will cost you. The
> Diagnostics Pack is the only one I would recommend - it includes ASH,
> AWR, ADDM, etc.:
>

http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/license.102/b14199/opt
> ions.htm#CIHHIGBI
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> The Diagnositcs Pack currently lists at $3000 per CPU:
>

http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/license.102/b14199/opt
> ions.htm#CIHHIGBI
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> Regards,
> Brandon
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org
> [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of
> Joel.Patterson_at_crowley.com
>
> I want them to license OEM Grid. For what I guess is $40,000?
> per 4 processor server?
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