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Home -> Community -> Mailing Lists -> Oracle-L -> Re: Oracle's relationships with expert DBAs (and the rest of us mere mortals)
On 5/30/06, Mogens Nørrgaard <mln_at_miracleas.dk> wrote:
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> Yo Mladen,
>
> So what is this now? I'm sitting here in Anjo Kolk's living room with one
> (just one!) whisky (40 years old) and one (just one) good beer, and then
> suddenly I'm unable to drink, because I see the most bitter, twisted and old
> man in the community not being able to accept when someone else than himself
> - or me - is making a joke?
>
The quote as reported, rather than as delivered, and from people who don't know Mary-Ann but do know the public pronouncements by both her and David Litchfield doesn't sound like a joke. Doesn't mean it wasn't one or that she is stupid, just that understanding humour third hand without knowing the person doesn't work well. It also doesn't necessarily indicate bad journalism - its a good quote after all.
As to the substance, I happen to think that both David and Mary-Ann are
right, Oracle do need to improve internally, particularly on their
responseto newly discovered bugs (since bugs will always happen) and
yes they can
learn from Microsoft here; equally the prevalent culture of install
everything, run everything with maximum rights, don't apply patches and lock
down after the event needs to change. Security is a two way street and from
where I stand neither we as customers "it's all Oracle's fault" nor our
suppliers "it's all the fault of one or two individuals" are very good at
it.
-- Niall Litchfield Oracle DBA http://www.orawin.info -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-lReceived on Wed May 31 2006 - 00:35:38 CDT
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