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All this is, is a spam filter that someone at thump_at_cosmiccooler.org
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Hope that helps clarify what was going on,
-Mark
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Subject: OT (kinda) RE: DROP LMT TBS internals.
I got this intercept?/virus?/trojan? in my email just after=20
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It may be my-site-specific, but...in case it isn't...i include
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Subject: RE: DROP LMT TBS internals.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mohan, Ross [mailto:RMohan_at_arbinet.com]=20
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 12:36 PM
To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
Subject: RE: DROP LMT TBS internals.
yea, I conflated a couple things creating confusion, but "yes", I had to
drop things with 150,000+ extents by doing truncate...reuse... and then
"alter...deallocate" judiciously. We used to have millions of used and =
free
extents, but now since=20
global=3D>partitioning conversion, have only about 140K total. Much=20
nicer, but...i think the damage has been done in C_TS# and =
C_FILE#_BLOCK#.=20
total PITA.=20
LMTs rock, totally. So looking forward to being on 92 on=20 real CPUs (non SPARC, whooppee!) and new DataDict...
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark W. Farnham [mailto:mwf_at_rsiz.com]=20
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 11:45 AM
To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
Subject: RE: DROP LMT TBS internals.
oops. I didn't mean a Wolfgang (10053), I meant 10046.
mwf
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[mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org]On
Behalf Of Mark W. Farnham
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 9:37 AM
To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
Subject: RE: DROP LMT TBS internals.
I'm not sure what would hold up dropping an LMT tablespace other than
dictionary operations on the names of the objects in the LMT. In the =
case of
LMTs, I'm not sure whether extra work is avoided by taking the =
tablespace
off-line and using offline drop including contents. That should, =
however,
short circuit transactions from interfering with the dictionary actions =
on
the objects in the tablespace, so if you offline the tablespace first =
and
then drop it you should be able to isolate where the wait is between
references to the segments in the tablespace and the mechanics of the =
drop
itself. I've never Wolfganged a drop tablespace (I did truss one long =
ago
but that was dictionary and before 10046 was available, and the output =
was
too long to analyze usefully.) I would think the operation in lieu of
segment reference interference would be so short that it wouldn't be =
worth
detailed research. Since you're having an actual problem, maybe it is
worthwhile.
Now if you really are looking for a metric on progress similar to =
watching
uet$ or fet$ for dictionary managed spaces, I suppose that if you count =
from
dba_segments where the storage is that tablespace you should see the =
count
drop. Of course that metric might slow down the operation.
Regards,
mwf
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Subject: DROP LMT TBS internals.
Hello List,
If I am dropping a LMT Tablespace and it takes a long time, how can I =
know
that the process is running, not hanged. Can anyone let me know what are =
the
internal functionality of drop tablespace. I know that we can check fet$ =
for
DMT TBS, how about LMT TBS?
Best Regards,
Syed Jaffar Hussain
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