Jared, you may remember this. A long time ago
Oracle-l was hosted by SUNY. Oracle had just started
to take off like a rocket and there were few really
experienced DBAs. Almost everyone on the list was a
newbie. Many of us kept our jobs and reached
maturity as DBAs because of the help we got from
Oracle-l in those days. Newbies were always welcome.
Or maybe, we have evolved from enthusiastic, curious
newbies to seasoned professionals who are also grumpy
old men and women.
- Jared.Still_at_radisys.com wrote:
> >
> > ANYBODY who would type ANYTHING in as root WITHOUT
> knowing what it
> > does EXACTALLY should not have root access, is not
> responsable
> > enough to have root access and needs to WAKE UP
> and LEARN the "man"
> command.
> >
> > good lord, people, what happened to personal
> responsibility and
> > professionalism?
> >
> It would seem that many of us have forgotten that
> Scott Adams gets
> fodder for Dilbert from real life.
>
> As Mark Powell has pointed out, folks get thrown
> into the position of
> DBA and/or Unix admin without much prior experience,
> and they don't
> have much say in the matter, short of finding new
> employment. That
> is not always an option. They may not yet have a
> good concept of how
> unix works, and don't yet appreciate the power of
> root.
>
> So, are we saying we should not answer newbie
> questions for folks that
> don't have a clue, and yet they are required to fill
> the position?
>
> Even pointing someone to the correct section of the
> documentation can
> be extremely useful. I started with Oracle 7.0.12.
> The documentation
> was quite a bit smaller than now, but it wasn't
> always clear which
> doc I needed.
>
> The docs are now 20k+ pages for all the Oracle
> online docs. The index
> and search capabilities are useful, but hardly
> infallible. Is it too
> much trouble for us to point someone in the right
> direction?
>
> How about the less experienced listers? I often
> ignore simple questions,
> knowing that this gives an opportunity for junior
> folks to participate
> in the list, and help out those that have even less
> experience than
> they do.
>
> So, what's the consensus?
>
> Should be welcome folks with little experience, or
> make it clear that
> they should come back when they know what they're
> doing?
>
> My vote is for trying to be helpful, even to those
> with annoyingly
> simple questions. If I don't care to answer, I
> leave it for someone else.
>
>
> Jared
>
>
>
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The Regence Group
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