Re: SQLPlus -- restatement of the problem

From: Sue Johnson <sue_johnson_dba_at_hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 00:46:34 -0800
Message-ID: <BAY10-F49Mo7yPueAdn000063f6@hotmail.com>

Let me restate the problem so that we may compare apples with apples...

When using SQLPlus (or other tools) there are 3 parts:

INPUT                    EXECUTION                    OUTPUT

Now,

INPUT is horrid using notepad. So, we substitute with UltraEdit32 (i downloaded it, its very good), emacs, vi, bbedit(mac), which is good, but:

a. we are back to the toggle mode between sqlplus and the editor
b. where is the security?
c. what about the output so that we may work with the data, change the data,

etc, etc....SPOOL?
So, the suggestions reg. ultraedit32, emacs, vi, bbedit, et al, is a quickfix for the input. Its not a comprehensive solution for either the end-user or the power user.

EXECUTION in sqlplus is by far great (the greatest).

OUTPUT in sqlplus is horrid, spool file spool on/out... terrible, so we csv to excel, etc. These are all work arounds, again not a comprehensive solution.

A comprehensive solution would involve INPUT+EXECUTION+OUTPUT, not just any one aspect of this. I have downloaded most of the windows based tools that were mentioned and am evaluating again, however, not many options here...and that surprises me.

Sue
DBA
OCP
>From : Mladen Gogala <mladen_at_wangtrading.com>
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Subject : Re: SQLPlus -- replacement tool

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I use "vim". It has "set syntax=oracle" command, or, my favorite, "set syntax=perl",
and it isn't as expensive as UltraEdit32. I have yet to find an editor capable
of
supporting regular expressions as well as "vi". And you know what: it's everywhere
where I go. There is a "vi" version for everything, with the possible exception
of
IBM mainframe. IBM mainframes have been appropriately named: the latest and the
greatest
is called "T-Rex" (not a joke, it's true). Asteroid is traveling fast and Jurassic is
coming to an end.

On 02/20/2004 09:00:07 AM, "Freeman, Donald" wrote:
>I use UltraEdit32. Its a programming text editor with about 1000 built =
>in functions. I think a single license copy is $35. It supports sql and =
>pl/sql syntax highlighting, column editing (which I used extensively to =
>create a million sql statements at a time), very large file support, =
>built in ftp client, regular expressions, most unix like functions, like =
>grep, sort, uniq, multiple clipboards, templates, macros. You can edit =
>in hex, ascii, ebcdic, unix, mac. It has won several awards. I have =
>been using it in combination with sqlplus for five years. I have both =
>TOAD and DBArtisan but prefer Ultraedit. It's possible that it can be =
>linked directly to sqlplus. I know you can run programs from it but =
>haven't tried to link it. You can make it your default editor. It has =
>improved my sql productivity 100%. =20

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