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Nope, it doesn't..
But then - neither does perl.. ;)
Mark
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From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jared Still
Sent: 17 February 2004 08:05
To: Oracle-L Freelists
Subject: RE: Oracle 10g for Windows
Mark,
I've used Cygwin for several years, along with many other 3rd party tools.
But it doesn't come with the Os, does it?
Jared
On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 07:16, Mark Leith wrote:
> And a couple of other comments:
>
> For a text editor try "ConText".. It's a free alternative to textpad
> which is just as good..
> (http://fixedsys.com/context/)
>
> For UNIX command line type options try cygwin..
> (http://www.cygwin.com/)
>
> Mark
>
> Mark Leith
> Cool-Tools UK Limited
>
> Tel: 01905 330 281
> Fax: 08701 275 283
> mark_at_cool-tools.co.uk
> http://www.cool-tools.co.uk
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org
> [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of Davey, Alan
> Sent: 16 February 2004 15:03
> To: 'oracle-l_at_freelists.org'
> Subject: RE: Oracle 10g for Windows
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Have either of you tried the Scheduled Tasks program? On W2K it is
> available under the Control Panel. I've used it in the past and
> unlike the 'at' command it works reliably and is easy to configure.
>
> HTH,
>
> -----------------------------------------
> Alan Davey
> Senior Analyst/Project Leader
> Oracle 9i OCA; 3/4 OCP
> w) 973.267.5990 x458
> w) 212.295.3458
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Freeman Robert - IL [mailto:FREEMANR_at_tusc.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 9:49 AM
> To: 'Jared Still '; 'Oracle-L Freelists '
> Subject: RE: Oracle 10g for Windows
>
>
> Comments inline ...
>
> RF
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> >> What I dislike about working with Oracle on Windows:
>
> >> * No decent scheduler. Yes there is 'at'. Like I said...
> Good point, though this should be less of an issue with the new Oracle
> Database 10g Scheduler, which is supposed to be able to kick off
> external programs (including batch programs). I have not played with
> this specific bit of functionality much, but what I have played with
> worked.
>
> >> * Installing Perl on win32 with all needed modules has become a
> >> monumental pain in the rear.
> Hmmmmmm..... Another reason that Perl just isn't one of my fav.
> scripting languages.
>
> >> * Why can't MS provide a semi-decent code editor.
> >> Yeah, notepad. Right.
> and vi or ed is any better??? Granted, once you learn vi, it's pretty
> cool, but in the begining? UGH! My vote for best windows editor is
> textpad.... hands down the best editor I've ever used.
>
> Anyone remember an editor called EC? Do they still make it?
>
> >> * Command line utilities. You think unix/linux is arcane?
> Actually, you can do a lot at the command line in NT.... Of course,
> it's not as robust as UNIX (have yet to find, for example, a fold
> command). Still, if you are some C or basic coding experience or you
> are adept at the web, it's not too bad.
>
> >> * The fact that an incredibly robust PIPE implementation is built
> >> in,
>
> >> but there is no access from the command line. And that Oracle is
> >> built with the MS stdlib ( think that's the sitation ) so even when
> >> you get 3rd party tools that work with PIPE's, they won't work with
> >> Oracle.
> Ok, I agree, this has been an issue with me as well.
>
> >> * The fact that there are still drive letters.
> Ahhhh, so what? :-) Drive letters, mount points, who cares?
>
>
> >> * That MS has *finally* got around to offering unix like utilities,
> >> but wants $100 for them, on top of the money you've already paid
for
> >> the OS.
> I've seen NT related UNIX utilities around for a while (don't recall
> if they were MS though).
>
> >> * That it took until Win23k for MS to design the system to allow
> >> different versions of apps to have different versions of DLL's.
> >> Lesse, we've been doing this on unix for 30 years or so?
> Hey, we all have growing pains! :-)
>
> >> * The stupid Oracle home selector that is strictly a GUI.
> I have yet to use the Oracle home selector. Of course, I'm an old
> Oracle command line guy.... OEM gives me a rash.
>
> >> * That whenever a change in environment is made that needs to be
> >> picked up by an existing or new service, you must reboot because
> >> there is no other way to reset the environment seen by
services.exe.
> Can't you just stop and restart the service? How often does one need
> to change the environment in production anyway (hopefully not that
> often once it's stable!)
>
> >> Mind you now, Oracle runs just fine on win32. It's maintaining it
> >> and working with the environment that is so annoying, and made
> >> difficult where it shouldn't be.
> For me, the scheduler has been the biggest issue of all of these.
> Frankly, the others don't cause me much of an issue. Each platform has
> it's good and bad side. Which would I prefer, Oracle on UNIX... but I
> just don't think Windows is that bad.
>
> Jared
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