RE: Oracle vs Mysql

From: Goulet, Dick <DGoulet_at_vicr.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 06:24:33 -0800
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AMEN!!
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Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
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If MySQL comes to have the same capabilities that many people expect=20 from Oracle, marketing will have no effect. The huge differential in = price=20
point will be all that matters.=20

Jared=20

DENNIS WILLIAMS <DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM>=20 Sent by: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com=20

01/19/2004 04:04 PM=20
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Sounds like the old Oracle vs. Ingress battles. Oracle won because it = was
better at marketing. All detailed in the book "The Difference Between = God
and Larry Ellison". I can see it now -- MySQL, the Oracle of the free databases.

Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com=20

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Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 4:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Ryan,

                It's postgres.org.  I'm not sure how they generate the =

operating
revenue they need, but that's why they are not advertising like MySql AB = is.

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 5:05 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

i thought postgre was a for profit company? how do they generate = revenues?
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To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 4:19 PM

> 1) DBI is a perl module to handle the communication with various
databases.
> 2) Postgres is free. I believe that you can buy commercial support, =
but I
don't know
> where. May be Rich can jump in with that.
> 3) DBI is free and so is perl. I'm cheap & easy, but not free.
>
>
> On 01/14/2004 02:34:52 PM, Ryan wrote:
> > what is DBI?
> >
> > is postgre free? Is it like linux where you pay for support? I cant =
find
any
> > licensing info on the website. Most shops dont need oracle, sql =
server,
> > sybase, or DB2.
> >
> > Most applications are small. I was on a project where the government =
had
an
> > Oracle EE license on windows. They didnt even use foreign key
constraints.
> > Had a whopping 13 tables, 20 MB of data, and 10-15 users. Any free
database
> > could have handled that.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 1:44 PM
> >
> >
> > >
> > > On 01/14/2004 12:44:25 PM, "Jesse, Rich" wrote:
> > > > If you have the choice, look at PostgreSQL in addition to MySQL.
From
> > what
> > > > I've seen, it's more mature than MySQL.
> > >
> > > I second that. PostgresSQL supports transactions and uses perl as =
its
> > > scripting language. From what little I read and saw (just a little
pilot
> > > project with the goal to see "what the heck is Postgres"), it's a =
very
> > > decent database, with a decent performance and capabilities =
sufficient
> > > for a small, departmental database server. I know nothing of
clustering,
> > > distributed database, database links, replication and alike. In =
other
> > words,
> > > I wouldn't use it for an enterprise-wide server for GE or =
Wall-Mart,
but
> > > it can be quite a convenient storage space for a small corner shop =
or
a
> > > small department. Because of perl and DBI, exchanging data with =
other
> > > servers like oracle or UDB (DB2) is easy.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mladen Gogala
> > > Oracle DBA
> > > --
> > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net
> > > --=20
> > > Author: Mladen Gogala
> > > INET: mladen_at_wangtrading.com
> > >
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 was better at marketing. All detailed in the book "The Difference = Between=20
 God and Larry Ellison". I can see it now -- MySQL, the Oracle of = the=20
 free databases. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch,=20 Inc. dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com -----Original = Message----- Sent:=20
 Wednesday, January 14, 2004 4:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list =

ORACLE-L Ryan,           =  =20
     It's postgres.org.  I'm not sure how they generate = the=20
 operating revenue they need, but that's why they are not = advertising like=20
 MySql AB is. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle = Certified 8i=20
 DBA -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, January 14, = 2004=20
 5:05 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L i = thought=20
 postgre was a for profit company? how do they generate = revenues? -----=20
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PM > 1) DBI is a perl module to handle the communication = with=20
 various databases. > 2) Postgres is free. I believe that you = can buy=20
 commercial support, but I don't know >    where. = May be=20
 Rich can jump in with that. > 3) DBI is free and so is perl. I'm = cheap=20
 & easy, but not free. > > > On 01/14/2004 = 02:34:52 PM,=20
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 free? Is it like linux where you pay for support? I cant = find any >=20
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 > > > > On 01/14/2004 12:44:25 PM, "Jesse, Rich" = wrote: >=20
 > > > If you have the choice, look at PostgreSQL in addition = to=20
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