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Re: Documenting databases

From: Eric King <erickingus_at_hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 17:39:25 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005D9547.20031209173925@fatcity.com> 





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Eric






> Don't know if this has been mentioned or if it does enough of what you're

> looking for but you can pick up something called "RDA" (remote diagnostic

> agent) from Oracle that'll give you an overview of OS setup, Network,

> performance (very high level), and RDBMS info.  And the result is

web-a-fied


> which might please your manager. I forget whether I found this in metalink

or


> technet...

>

> Kip

>

>

> |The internal stuff can be documented with OraSnap.

>

> |Just google for it.  It's free, detailed, and easy to setup and automate.

>

> |Jared

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> |alan.aschenbrenner_at_ihs.com

> |Sent by: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com

> | 12/09/2003 03:34 PM

> | Please respond to ORACLE-L

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> |        To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

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> |        Subject:        Re: Documenting databases

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> |Dan,

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> |    That's a good idea for documenting structures inside the database.

> |However, my database manager wants more high level info:  database name /

> |host, oracle version, listeners, applications that use it, cron job

> |descriptions and times, main schemas and what they are used for, lists of

> |developers names that access the databse, etc...

>

> |Alan

>

>

>

>

> |                      Daniel Hanks

> |                      <hanksdc_at_about-in        To:       Multiple

> |recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>

> |                      c.com>                   cc:

> |                      Sent by:                 Subject:  Re: Documenting

> |databases

> |                      ml-errors_at_fatcity

> |                      .com

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>

> |                      12/09/2003 04:09

> |                      PM

> |                      Please respond to

> |                      ORACLE-L


>

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> |On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 alan.aschenbrenner_at_ihs.com wrote:

>

> |>     Recently our database manager has asked us to do the

unthinkable....


> |> document our databases!  To make matters worse, and without our input,

> |he

> |> went ahead and created a schema and put it in an Access database (using

> |> tables to make it look like a speadsheet).  Either we use his idea or

> |come

> |> up with something else.

> |>     So, I thought I'd ask everyone on the list how you do it.  Text

> |files?

> |> In a database (oracle, or other)?   Spreadsheets?  What are the pros

and


> |> cons?  Etc....

> |>

>

> |How about in each database itself.

>

> |COMMENT ON TABLE|COLUMN tab|tab.col IS '...'

>

> |comes to mind. It's simplistic, yes, but at least you don't have to

> |remember where you put your documentation...

>

> |HTH,


>

> |-- Dan

> |========================================================================

> |   Daniel Hanks - Systems/Database Administrator

> |   About Inc., Web Services Division

> |========================================================================

> |--

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> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">The internal stuff can be documented

with OraSnap.</font>


> <br>

> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Just google for it. &nbsp;It's free,

detailed, and easy to setup and automate.</font>


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> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Jared</font>

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> Dan,<br>

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>  &nbsp; &nbsp;That's a good idea for documenting structures inside the

database.<br>


> However, my database manager wants more high level info: &nbsp;database

name /<br>


> host, oracle version, listeners, applications that use it, cron job<br>

> descriptions and times, main schemas and what they are used for, lists

of<br>


> developers names that access the databse, etc...<br>

> <br>

> Alan<br>

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> <br>

> On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 alan.aschenbrenner_at_ihs.com wrote:<br>

> <br>

> &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; Recently our database manager has asked us to do the

unthinkable....<br>


> &gt; document our databases! &nbsp;To make matters worse, and without our

input, he<br>


> &gt; went ahead and created a schema and put it in an Access database

(using<br>


> &gt; tables to make it look like a speadsheet). &nbsp;Either we use his

idea or<br>


> come<br>

> &gt; up with something else.<br>

> &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; So, I thought I'd ask everyone on the list how you do

it. &nbsp;Text<br>


> files?<br>

> &gt; In a database (oracle, or other)? &nbsp; Spreadsheets? &nbsp;What are

the pros and<br>


> &gt; cons? &nbsp;Etc....<br>

> &gt;<br>

> <br>

> How about in each database itself.<br>

> <br>

> COMMENT ON TABLE|COLUMN tab|tab.col IS '...'<br>

> <br>

> comes to mind. It's simplistic, yes, but at least you don't have to<br>

> remember where you put your documentation...<br>

> <br>

> HTH,<br>

> <br>

> -- Dan<br>

>


========================================================================<br>




>  &nbsp; Daniel Hanks - Systems/Database Administrator<br>

>  &nbsp; About Inc., Web Services Division<br>

>


========================================================================<br>




> --<br>

> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net<br>

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> Author: Daniel Hanks<br>

>  &nbsp;INET: hanksdc_at_about-inc.com<br>

> <br>

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