RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

From: MacGregor, Ian A. <ian_at_SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:34:25 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005D3685.20031016133425@fatcity.com>

The grid is presently at version 1.0, and like any 1.0 release is fraught with problems. One doesn't just install the grid, but installs several packages which have interdependencies to the extent that upgrading one will almost certainly cause failures somewhere else.

I digress...
A developer wanted to use a materialized view for data aggregation. I explained what he needed had to be done on the database containing the data to be summarized, that he would need to have a count of the records as part of the aggregation, and added that the wind must be due west at a steady 10 knots, and there must be exactly five clouds visible in the sky.

This has become known here as the five-cloud rule. The grid today is very much governed by the five-cloud rule.

However, like anything new technology with proper effort it will improve.

Ian MacGregor
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
ian_at_SLAC.Stanford.edu  

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Current issue of ComputerWorld has an article on Grid, but I enjoyed the fantastic cartoon.... :)

• Kirti
  • Jared Still <jkstill_at_cybcon.com> wrote:
    > Here's a recently curmudgeonly reply to a friend that
    > asked the same question.
    >
    > -----------------
    >
    > As for 10g itself: the 'g' stands for 'grid' as you probably know.
    >
    > The 'grid' is really the infrastructure for 'utility computing', the
    > latest plot to make IT folks obsolete. Personally I see it being
    > useful in large organizations where large numbers of servers can be
    > used in a grid, and computing power being doled out to apps as needed.
    > It's still very much vaporware, as the tools to effectively administer
    > and monitor this aren't available yet.
    >
    > I don't agree with the prognostications that businesses will begin
    > buying computing power from a utility computing company on an as
    > needed basis, much as they do electricity.
    >
    > The whole 'utility' part of the moniker is a pretty poor analogy IMO.
    >
    > Oracle's last big push was RAC. Reading the news makes it pretty
    > obvious why they're pushing it: revenue is down, few new customers,
    > gotta sell new stuff to existing ones. The hype for RAC was/is really
    > overblown, not many people actually need it, nor can afford to
    > purchase and maintain it.
    >
    > 10g will help Larry run in the America's Cup again. :)
    >
    > On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 08:04, rgaffuri_at_cox.net wrote:
    > > I was at the Wash DC Oracle conference yesterday and the key note
    > > address was about the future
    > direction of Oracle. It was pretty positive about Grid technology and
    > blade servers. Anyone out there have any opinions?
    > >
    > > It seems like this technology is probably several years away from
    > > being used in the business
    > and government contracting world. Most places you see it are in
    > academia.
    > >
    

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