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Hey folks, move it to the OT list, or just keep it private.
Jared
Bob Lofstrand <blofstrand_at_csedge.com>
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We have 5 also. All teens now. Very scary. Braces, learning to drive,
starting college. I hope yours were more spred out.
Why? How? Three little girls, that's about right, then Surprise, twin
boys. Uh oh.
Wouldn't trade them for anything but wouldn't have planned it this way
either.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 12:09 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>> Yes, unfortunately those of us who have had the courage and accepted >> the responsibility of bringing children to the world have to sometimes >> take the bad with the good.
Well, at least she'll never accuse you of having an "on-going issue"... :)
Yes, unfortunately those of us who have had the courage and accepted
the responsibility of bringing children to the world have to sometimes
take the bad with the good. For the sake of getting those kids out the
door with a good education. Worse yet if we also have to support mums
and dads way past the age where they can take care of themselves.
Much worse yet if they are on the other side of the world. It's all
part
of that thing they call "responsibility".
Doesn't mean we cannot speak up. But it has to be done in a slightly different way. The art is in learning how far you can push. And where. And when. It's hard, but a few hard knocks are the best lesson.
Has the role of DBA changed? Hell yeah! I've been claiming that for years, and why. But few have listened to the warning signs. Now, it's hit with a thud. Wake up call time. I agree with Robert: move to a place where you can be effective. Or change the world.
Now, those of us with kids cannot afford to change the world. And even
without kids, at 50 is not my idea of fun to form a union. Way past
that.
So, moving is the option. And all that comes with it like you pointed
out: learning the ropes in the new organization. It ain't easy.
Been there done that for the last 3 years. Much better now, but it
was a shock. One hint: pick the organization very carefully. Last
thing
you want is to be outsourced...
Then of course, there are those of us that were allowed to keep all their Oracle shares when they left. Real estate is the way to go.
Cheers
Nuno Souto
nsouto_at_optusnet.com.au
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