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That could be considered a security hole, not a feature!
Ruth
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From: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com [mailto:ml-errors_at_fatcity.com]On Behalf Of
Arup Nanda
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 3:30 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Re: Hey Jared
Now that's one place M$ is way ahead of Oracle, with easy do-it-yourself "become any user" privilege!
Wasn't from me. Our virus checker here at work would stop it.
From home I use Linux, so I'm not propagating virusii from there.
That would require that I manually forward a message with a virus.
That is also not likely, since my ISP stops those.
A virus will spoof someones email address when that address is found in the address book of the infected machine, typically a PC running Outlook.
As SoBig has it's own SMTP engine, this is likely what happened.
Jared
"Dilip Patel" <patel_dil_at_msn.com>
Sent by: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com
08/25/2003 10:14 AM
Please respond to ORACLE-L
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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cc:
Subject: Hey Jared
Jared,
Did you send the list/me some mail with "Your Details" as subject
line.
It has some .pif file as extention. Maybe that is some virus, So wanted to
make sure before i open it.
Thanks.
>From: Jared Still <jkstill_at_cybcon.com>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: Re: Nature of Oracle-l has changed
>Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:39:17 -0800
>
>
>Here's a perfect example of an email that should
>never have been sent.
>
>Sigh... I'll learn one of these days.
>
>This does not characterize the people I work for,
>as they're a pretty good bunch and actually do
>understand technology.
>
>It's more of a generalized rant fueled by past
>experiences.
>
>Should have hit 'delete' on this one instead of 'send'.
>
>Jared
>
>On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 11:19, Jared Still wrote:
> > Mladen,
> >
> > My version of the explanation of this goes back to childhood.
> >
> > When you were in school, just which crowd were those execs in?
> >
> > The 'in' crowd, the jocks, the party hounds.
> >
> > If like me, you were one of the 'eggheads', you didn't fit
> > in so well with their clique, and maybe you still don't.
> >
> > When in school, I was told I would be more popular if I
> > "wasn't so smart". I was even told that once as an adult.
> >
> > After pondering that for a bit, I decided they could all
> > bite the green weenie if they didn't like it.
> >
> > This is probably how I earned my Hawkeye Pierce like cynicism,
> > which I do work hard at keeping in check, lest it cause me
> > more problems with the former 'in' folk that I now work for.
> >
> > 'They' don't like it when people are smarter than they are,
> > and understand things they don't understand, and can't hope
> > to understand.
> >
> > Hmm, this is getting a but cynical, so I guess I'll stop
> > before I provide too much fodder for an HR type that has
> > finally learned how to use google.
> >
> > Jared
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 17:19, Mladen Gogala wrote:
> > >
> > > On 2003.08.23 18:34, Tim Gorman wrote:
> > >
> > > > Six years ago, a CIO commented to me, waving down a corridor
which
>had
> > > > offices full of developers, "If I had my way, I'd get rid of all
of
>them and
> > > > replace them with lawyers. We'd buy applications instead of
>building them
> > > > and then sue the vendors." My response was something along the
>lines of "if
> > > > you think developers are expensive, go price some lawyers", but
it
>certainly
> > > > bounced off him. At the time, I took it as just another
colorful
>comment
> > > > from a colorful guy. But he was dead serious, along with his
>CIO/CFO
> > > > brethren, and the passing of Y2K and the dot-com bubble pop has
>expedited
> > > > his prediction...
> > >
> > > I always wondered where does this prejudice against us, computer
geeks
>(my
> > > apologies to anyone offended by that expression, but I'm a hard
core
>computer
> > > geek) comes from? I must say that this prejudice is very hard to
>understand.
> > > IT people are very well educated, very hard working, regularly
willing
>to
> > > work long hours and sacrifice their weekends for the benefit of
the
>company.
> > > I found that very same attitude against the "darned geeks" at
several
> > > executives and managers of several companies I worked for. Even if
>lawyers
> > > are much more expensive the programmers, system and database
>administrators,
> > > application designers, they are still very willing to make the
switch.
> > > I'm not quite sure why are we so hated? Why would anyone want to
kill
> > > a nice and seet little wabbit?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mladen Gogala
> > > Oracle DBA
> > > --
> > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net
> > > --
> > > Author: Mladen Gogala
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