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Re: URGENT!!! My 9i databases are not shutting down cleanly/cons

From: Tim Gorman <tim_at_sagelogix.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 20:34:24 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005CC122.20030821203424@fatcity.com>


I think the reasoning falls somewhere between the utterly rational and the insanely superstitious...

Iıve known people who would keep repeating ³sync² until their fingers started tripping over one another, so I tend to see three ³sync²s as the minimum. At least, thatıs how it was explained to me 20 years ago: ³by the time you type it in for the third time, the first one has done the job²...

Go ahead, type in ³sync² just once. I dare ya...

on 8/21/03 9:04 AM, Tanel Poder at tanel.poder.003_at_mail.ee wrote:

> Hi!
>  
> I've always wondered why 3 syncs. Is it quaranteed, that after *exactly 3*
> syncs everything has been written to disk? Or it more like that after that
> number of syncs, most of the changes should be on disk? (sounds stupid)
>  
> Tanel.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Tim Gorman <mailto:tim_at_sagelogix.com>
>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <mailto:ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:04 AM
>> Subject: Re: URGENT!!! My 9i databases are not shutting down cleanly/cons
>> 
>> I’d suggest throwing a couple ALTER SYSTEM CHECKPOINT commands just prior to
>> the SHUTDOWN ABORT, to help speed up the subsequent STARTUP (and just to make
>> me feel better)...
>> 
>> Does anyone remember the UNIX mantra of entering “sync; sync; sync” before
>> “halt”?  :-)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> on 8/20/03 11:09 AM, April Wells at awells_at_csedge.com wrote:
>> 

>>> We have started waiting 90 min then do shutdown abort, startup, shutdown
>>> immediate
>>>
>>> April Wells
>>> Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA
>>> Corporate Systems
>>> Amarillo Texas
>>>
>>> Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite
>>> Adam Wells age 11
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Paula_Stankus_at_doh.state.fl.us [mailto:Paula_Stankus_at_doh.state.fl.us]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:54 PM
>>>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>>>> Subject: RE: URGENT!!! My 9i databases are not shutting down cleanly/cons
>>>> 
>>>> Which brings up that thread of - if they are hard to shutdown and possibly
>>>> going to crash anyway then ..... why not just wait some period of time and
>>>> do the old shutdown abort.
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: April Wells [mailto:awells_at_csedge.com]
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 1:00 PM
>>>>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>>>>> Subject: RE: URGENT!!! My 9i databases are not shutting down cleanly/cons
>>>>> 
>>>>> We do, Paula... both in 9.0.1.3 and 9.2.0.2 we have trouble getting them
>>>>> to shutdown elegantly... and they sometimes crash
>>>>> 
>>>>> April Wells 
>>>>> Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA
>>>>> Corporate Systems
>>>>> Amarillo Texas
>>>>> 
>>>>> Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite
>>>>> Adam Wells age 11
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Paula_Stankus_at_doh.state.fl.us
>>>>>> [mailto:Paula_Stankus_at_doh.state.fl.us]
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:50 AM
>>>>>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>>>>>> Subject: RE: URGENT!!! My 9i databases are not shutting down cleanly/cons
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> BTW, nothing happening in terms of processes that would hang-up the
>>>>>> system.  Also, I have check alert and trace files and there are no
>>>>>> obvious errors.
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Paula_Stankus_at_doh.state.fl.us
>>>>>>> [mailto:Paula_Stankus_at_doh.state.fl.us]
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:25 PM
>>>>>>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: URGENT!!! My 9i databases are not shutting down
>>>>>>> cleanly/cons
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There seems to be a problem with consistent shutdowns in 9i
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Oracle 9i 64bit
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 9.0.1.3.0 - infrastructure database that comes with the application
>>>>>>> server 
>>>>>>> 9.2.0.1.0 - that is the version of RDBMS we are running.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Does anyone have problems shutting down their databases consistently
>>>>>>> with 9i?????
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