Re: OT -- Boston Globe job listings

I've seen it kill consulting rates for developers but not for the DBA side.

joe

DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote:

>Ken - Since you've recently changed jobs, your upbeat attitude is
>encouraging. I think you've made a good point that jobs aren't always
>advertised. Another point is that when there are more jobs than available
>candidates, companies have to advertise strongly to fill their positions.
>When there are more candidates than available jobs, companies often find
>that people are seeking out the opening before they post it.
>
>Patrice - Look at what happened over the previous years. In 1999
>corporations spent wildly on I.T. (naturally when the catastrophe didn't
>occur because of the tireless efforts of I.T. people, the senior executives
>felt the money was wasted). Then when spending would have naturally
>declined, the dot-com madness stuck and things went wild. I think we are
>just about to come out of the natural down cycle due to the extravagant
>dot-com spending. But now I keep seeing articles about how much development
>work is being sent overseas. Has anyone seen that affect Oracle DBA work
>yet?
>
>Dennis Williams
>DBA
>Lifetouch, Inc.
>dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com <mailto:dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com>
>
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>I don't think it has as much to do with no available positions (although
>that is part of the answer) as most medium to large companies don't use
>newspaper ads anymore. They are using the internet (especially for
>technical jobs) and are signed up with Monster, BrassRing, etc. to do their
>recruiting for them from their own company web sites. I've seen this
>definite shift here in the Minneapolis / St. Paul, MN area over the past
>couple of years. Most of these companies also provide e-mail service that
>sends you an email when a job is posted that meets your specs. So, why
>waste your time on newspaper ads that only appear every Sunday?
>
>My $0.02 worth,
>
>Ken Janusz, CPIM
>
>
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>>I've been keeping an eye on the Boston Globe's Oracle DBA job postings,
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>two
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>>years ago it wasn't uncommon to see eight or more per week, now I tend to
>>see one or two, or none.
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>>For a while they also announced big IT job fairs, I don't know if they
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>still
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>>do that or how successful they now are.
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>>The market has really shrunk in two years!
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>>There can't be a huge glut of DBAs out there looking for work... It must
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>be
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>>a reduction in demand because companies are not making big infrastructure
>>changes anymore.
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>>Patrice.
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