RE: Veritas like RMAN?

From: Michael Kline <mkline1_at_comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:40:00 -0400
Message-Id: <25998.339185@fatcity.com>

I was afraid of that....

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This doesn't give me a "warm" feeling. Alert log shows NOTHING.

This is a manufacturing site where the click of a bar code reader is moving materials from one location to another and that may or may not occur at any time. I'm not positive that one could say that this would never happen. Every time I've been in there looking around random jobs are coming into dbms_jobs in what appears to be all hours of the night.

They have an export, but I think that's it. If they take a backup on Sunday, I think everything is shutdown. It MIGHT be good if the moon is right.

Maks.

-----Original Message-----
From: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com [mailto:ml-errors_at_fatcity.com]On Behalf Of Rachel Carmichael
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:59 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Veritas like RMAN?

you don't have backups. Oracle will only support recovery from hot backups taken when the tablespaces are not flagged as in backup mode if you do the backup via RMAN.

Technically, if you are very very lucky, the moon is in the seventh house and Jupiter has aligned with Mars, you *MIGHT* be able to use the hot backup taken without RMAN. If and only if there is absolutely NO activity whatsoever in the database from the time the backup starts until when it finishes. Even then, recovery is still not supported.

• Michael Kline <mkline1_at_comcast.net> wrote:
  > I found no signs of RMAN being used in
  > any way shape or form...
  >
  > I've been told they are doing "hot" backups
  > using Veritas... HOWEVER, the alert log shows
  > no signs what so ever of "alter tablespace
  > xyz begin/end backup"...
  >
  > Can it do a good backup backing up live
  > DB files and leaving no signs what so
  > ever that backup took place.
  >
  > Is Veritas capable of this?
  >
  > If so, why is there a Veritas interface
  > to RMAN???
  >
  > Confusion, confusion...
  >
  >
  > Michael Alan Kline, Sr.
  > Principal Consultant
  > Business to Business Solutions, LLC
  > Phone: 804-744-1545 Cell: 804-314-6262
  > ICQ: 1009605, 975313
  > Email: mkline_at_b2bsol.com Web: www.b2bsol.com
  >
  >
  

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