RE: ER Tools (was: erwin)

SDesigner became PowerDesigner when Sybase bought/rebranded things.

There's an open source product I've been testing ... DBDesigner by fabForce. Not too bad, but I haven't really stretched it so far.

www.fabforce.net

Ciao
Fuzzy
:-)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Luis deUrioste
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 22:19
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: ER Tools (was: erwin)
>
>
> There was a Tool I used in the past, Sdesigner, simple to
> use. Also if all you need is an older version of Designer,
> what you could always do is buy one of the books that bundle
> with a copy of developer 2.1 or 6i.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 1:29 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Anyone care to ballpark a $$$ on the registered version of ERwin? I'm
> guessing it's expensive, and Computer ASSociates doesn't
> exactly trip my
> trigger.
>
> I'm trying to find a low-cost ER tool in order to get some simple data
> modeling done. So far, this is what I've found (VERY briefly):
>
> 1) Visio. Needs Enterprise edition. The UI is a pain, as far as I'm
> concerned. Pain, pain, pain. Cheapest viable option so far
> at less than
> $500/user. It can be used for more than just data modeling.
>
> 2) Oracle 9iDS. Hugely bloated. Relies on a 3GB (minimum)
> repository for
> some stupid reason. Apparently can't buy just Designer,
> which is all we
> need. Difficult to get started (concepts and management of workspace,
> container). Slow on a 2.4Ghz PC w/512MB RAM, although this
> may be due to me
> having to create the [EMAIL PROTECTED] repository DB on the same PC. Very
> comprehensive, though, from what I've seen. Can't access
> drawings from the
> OS, since they're (probably) in the repository.
>
> 3) No freeware tools such as dia, VisioModeler (pre-MS
> version of Visio),
> OpenOffice, or Koffice seemed to be able to draw crow's foot diagrams.
>
> 4) Sybase PowerBuilder. Didn't check out the download yet,
> although a demo
> of an older version (v6) seems like it would work. Not impressed with
> Sybase in general and it's probably in the $1Ks/user.
>
> 5) Data Architect from TheKompany.com only does physical
> modelling and
> their Kivio product doesn't seem to support crow's foot.
>
> 6) DeZign from datanamic.com. Haven't downloaded the demo
> yet, but the
> single screenshot looks promising. And at $149/user or
> $119/user for 10
> licenses, I'm hoping...
>
> I've been looking thru past messages found on orafaq.com
> (better searching
> than fatcity.com) and this is the majority of what I've been
> able to find.
> Anyone have more to add?
>
> Rich
>
> Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jay Wade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 9:49 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: Re: erwin
> >
> >
> > hello:
> >
> > The below has info about the product:
> > http://www3.ca.com/Solutions/Product.asp?ID=260
> >
> > The below has the download link:
> > http://www3.ca.com/Solutions/Collateral.asp?CID=33655&ID=260
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: erwin
> > >Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 04:54:25 -0800
> > >
> > > How can I found a trial version of erwin
> > >
> > >Danke...
> > >Arslan.
> >
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