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Got it . Thanks Arup .
-ak
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To: <A [EMAIL PROTECTED]
href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: oracle authentication from
windows
AK,
The issue is not creating an id called OPS$
SYSTEM on XP, but on the database. Say, you created a user called OPS$SYSTEM
as
create user ops$system identified
externally;
The XP user should be SYSTEM, not OPS$SYSTEM, to
log on to this account.
Now suppose, your os_authent_prefix is set to ""
(null), then the Oracle user SYSTEM, not OPS$SYSTEM is authenticated
externally. If someone creates a user in XP called SYSTEM, she can
call
sqlplus /@service1
The OS user is SYSTEM, os_authent_prefix is null,
so Oracle will let the user be logged on as oracle user SYSTEM!
Therefore, always have a not null value in
os_authent_prefix, e.g. OPS$.
If the XP user is OPS$SYSTEM, the oracle user
should be OPS$OPS$SYSTEM, not OPS$SYSTEM. I hope you see the
difference.
HTH.
Arup
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To: <A [EMAIL PROTECTED]
href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Arup Nanda
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 10:46
AM
Subject: Re: oracle authentication from
windows
Arup,
why someone can't create account like
ops$system on xp and get in . If they can create system then y not
ops$system . Secondly OS authentication means operating system is going to
take care of auth. rite ? . It's up to OS not allow the users to change
their ids.
-ak
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Mladen, This is precisely the content I have gone in depth in my upcoming book where this practice of OPS$ accounts have been discussed. The security hole in OPS$ accounts is a bit overrated. Chagnign username in Windows XP alone does not allow logging in to the database directly if OPS$ accounts are used. What you are referring to is setting the ORA_DBA group in Windows. Here is an excerpt from the book: "If OPS$ accounts must be used, make sure that init.ora parameter os_authent_prefix is set to OPS$ or some other value, not NULL. If it is null, as shown by an empty string "", the security is severely threatened. Any one can create a userid called SYSTEM in the OS and then logon without a password as the Oracle user SYSTEM. If the os_authent_prefix is set to OPS$, then the corresponding user id in Oracle will be OPS$SYSTEM, not SYSTEM. they are different users." As you might notice, OPS$ accounts are somehow insecure, and I personally eschew them; but let's face it, in some situations, like in the case AK mentioned, the use is required. When the DBAs can do is to take some precautions to ensure security. HTH. Arup <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> ----- Original Message ----- <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From: Gogala, Mladen To: <A [EMAIL PROTECTED] href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 4:19 PM Subject: RE: oracle authentication from windows <SPAN class=484330519-19062003>That, of course, will render your database totally insecure and open to anybody <SPAN class=484330519-19062003>who can bring in a WinXP laptop, change the windoze username and log in as he pleases. <SPAN class=484330519-19062003>DBA that sets his production parameters the way Arup described deserves to be <SPAN class=484330519-19062003>publicly tortured by Bill O'Reilly in the "no spin zone". Mladen Gogala <FONT face=Arial size=2>Oracle DBA Phone:(203) 459-6855 <FONT face=Arial size=2>Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Arup Nanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 3:46 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: oracle authentication from windows Sure. Just declare these in your init.ora <FONT face=Arial size=2>os_authent_prefix=OPS$remote_os_authent=TRUE bounce the database, add a user called OPS$<the Windows username>, e.g. OPS$AK if your Windows login id is AK as create user ops$ak identified externally From windows connect as "/@servicename", e.g. sqlplus /@service1 If it doesn't work, the OS user may be different. Use this query while connected to the database from Windows cleint. SQL> select sys_context('USERENV','OS_USER') from dual; See what OS username comes up; use that instead. HTH. Arup Nanda www.proligence.com <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> ----- Original Message ----- <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From: <A [EMAIL PROTECTED] href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">AK To: <A [EMAIL PROTECTED] href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 1:10 PM Subject: oracle authentication from windows We want our client users ( forms user ) to just enter windows password and then automatically able to get in to oracle .Is there a way oracle can authenticate from windows ( or active directory ) . enbadding password in runform.exe not an option . thanks, <FONT face=Arial size=2>-akReceived on Fri Jun 20 2003 - 11:04:49 CDT