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Re: RE: External tables

From: <rgaffuri_at_cox.net>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 06:10:20 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.0058930C.20030425061020@fatcity.com>


i thought the only real use of external tables was if you want your users to access data with a too, such as excel or some other tool like that.

what else would you use it for?
>
> From: John Dunn <john.dunn_at_sefas.co.uk>
> Date: 2003/04/25 Fri AM 04:36:51 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> Subject: RE: External tables
>
> Can external tables be used instead of UTL_FILE to read and write external
> files?
> If so, is it quicker than UTL_FILE?
>
> John
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: 25 April 2003 00:57
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>
> Re dirty data: Isn't it just going to go into the bad/discard file?
> Not sure at the moment, and no time to play with it.
>
> As for handling the bad file, it too can be an external table.
>
> How you handle the 'bad' data is highly site dependent, but
> at least you can easily access it from Oracle.
>
> Jared
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Jonathan Lewis" <jonathan_at_jlcomp.demon.co.uk>
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> 04/24/2003 03:01 PM
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> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
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> Subject: Re: External tables
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>
>
> Another point missed so far is that
> if your SQL to the external table hits
> some dirty data, then it bombs out
> with an Oracle error, and if you've been
> busy running an insert from it the next
> thing that happens is a likely to be a
> massive rollback.
>
> You also have to deal with the discard/bad
> file (in the event that your external table
> definition includes a 'bad limit' and doesn't
> crash your process) so you haven't really
> got rid of much of the infrastructure that
> you would need if you were to use sqlldr -
> only the SQLLOAD command and a
> couple of lines of shell to check the exit
> status from SQLLOAD and grep/awk the
> rows-loaded count from the log.
>
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>
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: 24 April 2003 19:16
>
>
> > The replies so far have failed to mention that parallel loading with
> > external tables is easy. With sqlloader, it ain't so easy.
> >
> > With external tables, it is also easy to do additional processing
> via
> > SQL when you load. In many cases you could avoid extra steps
> required
> > in sqlloader, such as loading to a temp table, then massaging your
> data
> > and loading to a perm table.
> >
> > You can skip the temp table with external tables.
> >
> > Jared
> >
> >
> >
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