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I will admit to getting mine simply as part of an ego trip. I figured that
after 15 years of being an developer/DBA with Oracle I should have one. Has it
made a difference to my salary or employment potential? Not one bit.
Dick Goulet
____________________Reply Separator____________________Subject: RE: Value of OCP
I held out for 8 years as an Oracle DBA. I had been sent to training and interviewed Oracle DBA's and worked for Oracle as a DBA consultant w/o having the certification. It was based on my personal reputation, experience, network and interview. Those I believe still count more. However, in this tight IT market and with Oracle not doing altogether well in the RDBMS market it's all good. Just get it on the cheap I say. Also, it may be the tie breaker for a new job. I wouldn't expect reimbursement or automatic job raise on this alone with the market in IT being what it was.
Plus I got annoyed with this being used to justify the invalid argument of a much less experienced, less talented person by a pointed-haired management type.
Oracle OCP DBA
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Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 1:36 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Dang, I gotta get a copy of that report to my manager! After going through the 7.3, 8, 8i and 9i OCP AND the OCM, I don't think any of them got me a pay increase! ;)
Pete
"Controlling developers is like herding cats."
Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook
"Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!"
Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA
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WILLIAMS
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:50 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Foote Partners surveys the value of certifications. They support that over the past two years, the OCP pay premium increased by nearly 40%. In the same period, the value of Microsoft MCP declined by nearly 60%.
A good article on the value of certifications. http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,936853,00.asp I don't see where they included the Foote data online. It is in the eWeek magazine 3/17/03 edition, page 50.
Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>I held out for 8 years as an Oracle DBA. I had been sent
to training and interviewed Oracle DBA's and worked for Oracle as a DBA consultant w/o having the certification. It was based on my personal reputation, experience, network and interview. Those I believe still count more. However, in this tight IT market and with Oracle not doing altogether well in the RDBMS market it's all good. Just get it on the cheap I say. Also, it may be the tie breaker for a new job. I wouldn't expect reimbursement or automatic job raise on this alone with the market in IT being what it was. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>Plus I got annoyed with this being used to justify the invalid
argument of a much less experienced, less talented person by a pointed-haired management type. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>Oracle OCP DBA</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Pete Sharman [<A
HREF="mailto:peter.sharman_at_oracle.com">mailto:peter.sharman_at_oracle.com</A>]</FON T>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 1:36 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: Value of OCP</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Dang, I gotta get a copy of that report to my manager!
After going</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>through the 7.3, 8, 8i and 9i OCP AND the OCM, I don't think
any of them</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>got me a pay increase! ;)</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>Pete</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>"Controlling developers is like herding cats."</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>"Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than
that!"</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2> </FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>WILLIAMS</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:50 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>Foote Partners surveys the value of certifications. They support
that</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>over the past two years, the OCP pay premium increased by
nearly 40%. In</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>the same period, the value of Microsoft MCP declined by nearly
60%.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>A good article on the value of certifications.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2><A HREF="http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,936853,00.asp"
TARGET="_blank">http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,936853,00.asp</A></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>I don't see where they included the Foote data online. It is in
the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>eWeek magazine 3/17/03 edition, page 50.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>Dennis Williams</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Lifetouch, Inc.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com </FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>Dennis Williams</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Lifetouch, Inc.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com </FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2> INET: DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM</FONT>
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