Re: MS SQL hasn't given up!

Advanced Linux is free, but if you choose to buy prepackaged distribution then you have to pay for it. But you will find the same software as in "downloaded" distribution. :-)

I'm using SuSE workstation for Oracle developing and everyday office work more than 2 years now and, personally (!), to work today on Windows200 is a pain for me. I'm using KDE desktop.

JP

On Friday 28 February 2003 13:59, you wrote:
> www.opensource.org and other sites (The Register) and
> www.globetechnology.com (Globe & Mail's technology news site) mentioned
> that MS considers LINUX a threat.
>
> Last week I attended an OS security class where each student had two PCs,
> one was a Windows2000 machine, one was a LINUX machine. The LINUX machine
> came with Gnome, which doesn't look all that bad. I would argue that the
> LINUX GUI needs a bit of streamlining but you can see that it has
> dramatically improved.
>
> LINUX still has software compatibility problems, the courseware referred to
> a LINUX configuration program that (for some unknown reason) wouldn't work
> on our LINUX machines.
>
> The LINUX machines seemed to have older hardware, I have the impression
> that they were the ones the training center had "replaced and upgraded" to
> Windows2000, but now had turned around and were using them for teaching OS
> security on LINUX. Speed was comparable.
>
> The irony is that as LINUX becomes more streamlined, vendors start charging
> for it... Will there be a meeting in the middle of open source OS and
> Windows? If Microsoft has to reduce its prices for Windows, how will it
> maintain its revenue growth?
>
> Advanced LINUX is not free either, I don't know how its price compares with
> the Windows2000 offering though.
>
> Regards,
> Patrice Boivin
> Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 7:40 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> As long as I'm not replaced by an open source (cheap) DBA ....
>
>
> Stephane Paquette
> Administrateur de bases de donnees
> Database Administrator
> Standard Life
> www.standardlife.ca
> Tel. (514) 925-7187
> stephane.paquette_at_standardlife.ca
> <mailto:stephane.paquette_at_standardlife.ca>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> dgoulet_at_vicr.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 5:04 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> I don't believe MS will ever give up. Isn't that part of American
> Capitalism? Your competitor does you one better on some test, therefore
> you've
> got to better them. Give Oracle a couple of weeks and we'll here that one
> too.
>
> But seriously, how many of us really care about the TP-C benchmark?
> It's
> great for marketing and the sales droids but how do I relate that to the
> business needs of where I'm working? Great, we can push the database to
> 400K+
> transactions per second, wow. Now if I could just get those 300 testers on
> the
> floor to take advantage of that when their tests are 5 minutes long!!
> Somehow
> the capabilities of the server/database combination has gotten SOO big that
> it
> can't be filled anymore or so the users think when they release the query
> from
> hell.
>
> BTW: As I look down the road to the future, I wonder how much of the
> commercial software industry is going to survive the wave of open source
> stuff
> coming down the pipe? Here I am, today, sitting at a MS Win2K desktop with
> Oracle running on the database server. A couple of years down the road I
> can
> see a Linux, or some derivative of it, as the desktop and PostgreSql on the
> database server. Processing data will still have to happen and relational
> data
> will still be around, but will MS and Oracle?? Damn good question I'd have
> to
> say.
>
> /* rant mode off, cool mode on */
>
> Dick Goulet
>
> ____________________Reply Separator____________________
> Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS <DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM>
> Date: 2/27/2003 11:26 AM
>
> For your amusement, MS thinks they can "now" equal Oracle in performance
> (wasn't that what they claimed 3 years ago?).
> Anyway, I tend to think of these benchmarks like the NASCAR winners. Yeah
> I'm going to go by a Chrysler because it won the NASCAR championship.
>
> http://www.entmag.com/news/article.asp?EditorialsID=5707
> <http://www.entmag.com/news/article.asp?EditorialsID=5707>
>
>
>
> Dennis Williams
> DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com

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