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Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

From: Les Ayudo <info_at_lesayudo.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:19:17 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.0054E39A.20030214131917@fatcity.com>


Thanks for the replies guys, I really appreciate it. Can i get some input on these 2 questions:

What chances am I looking at to
> getting hired as a newbie DBA once I graduate?
>
> I want to get into the Ecommerce side of Oracle (connecting DBs to
> websites/portals?). Which certification/path should I be
> following? Thanks in advance!!

THANKS, I'M STARTING TO LIKE THIS LIST ALREADY!!!!!

> Les - Here is an idea for you. Think up a trivial application for a
> database. Maybe your home albums or DVDs. Try to make it a little
> relational, like have an "artist" table. Force yourself to work with it.
At
> the right time I was secretary of a bowling league, so each year I rewrote
a
> league management program in a different language, whatever I needed to
> learn. I went through Oracle, COBOL, Perl, C, all in different years. The
> point is that by playing "user" you get a good feel for why the heck
> somebody would use a database to begin with.
>
>
>
> Dennis Williams
> DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 2:00 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm more of a windoz SA and have been working with a little Unix here &
> there for hte past 2yrs.... (RH, Mandrake, Solaris). What I really want
to
> accomplish is to switch to Unix and Databases. My goal is to use my
> certifcation as a way to get my foot in the door of the DB world and after
a
> couple of years, do some consulting. I downloaded oracle 9i for Solaris
and
> have yet to install it because I wanted to read up on Oracle 1st. Will
> install it this weekend ;)
>
> I want to work with DBs because I think it's always going to be about
> managing information and the need is never going to die. I don't know of
> any midsize companies who would survive w/o some type of DB and after
being
> laid off twice, I'm reconsidering going into a different IT career.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> To: Multiple <mailto:ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:34 AM
>
>
> The $3000 is true if he takes them through 'oracle' university but not if
> the local community college offers the classes.
>
> What I did (and it seemed to work fine) for my 8i certification is to go
to
> the community college bookstore and just buy the 'official' manuals and
> never signed up for the classes. I was lucky enough to already have a jr
> dba position so I was getting the real-world experience and I had a fairly
> decent idea of how oracle worked at a very basic level. (although I will
> say that my confidence in what I know has dropped dramatically in the last
> several months since I joined this list and began reading book's such as
> steve adams' 'oracle internals' and jonathan lewis's 'oracle 8i building
> efficient databases'...which has spawned an enormous interest in
continuing
> to improve my knowledge of all things oracle)
>
> What really, really erks me is the fact that these certifications have
been
> cheapened by people who relay specific test questions and even entire
exams
> over the internet. People should be in it for the knowledge....not just to
> get that certificate. I'd be scared sh#tless if I found a job where I
> pretended to be a dba and justified it by my certification only to be
given
> actual dba responsibilities. ...i'd rather work at a coffee shop and not
> have to deal with the stress (but that's just me)
>
> Anyways, I'm rambling now.
>
> Chris
>
> Oh yeah....a BIG OL THANKS to the pros on this list that put up with
> questions from people like me! Your knowledge is GREATLY appreciated.
>
> Have a good one.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:49 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
> 9i will cost you more in the long run because you have to take 4 exams
> at $150 each plus a $3000 course to get OCP.
>
> 8i then upgrade to 9i will cost you less but requires you to take up
> to 6 exams at $150 each but no more $3000 course.
>
> --
> Lyndon Tiu
>
>
> Quoting Les Ayudo <info_at_lesayudo.com>:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm thinking of going to school to get Oracle certified. There are
> > 2 schools in my area that are offering Oracle certs but one offers
> > Oracle 8i courses w/ an upgrade to 9i, while the other offers all
> > 9i courses. If i go to the schools who offers 9i courses, would I
> > miss out on valuable 8i knowledge? Which school should I attend?
> > The courses will last about 7 or 8 months. Also, is this a good
> > "in demand" field to get into? What chances am I looking at to
> > getting hired as a newbie DBA once I graduate?
> >
> > I want to get into the Ecommerce side of Oracle (connecting DBs to
> > websites/portals?). Which certification/path should I be
> > following? Thanks in advance!!
> >
>
>
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> Author: Lyndon Tiu
> INET: ltiu_at_alumni.sfu.ca
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