There is a product on the market that dramatically
reduces the cost of RAc to almost nothing. Its
called:
LF ver 1.0
where LF = "license fraud". Of course, to get it, you
will need to send me a license fee for LF, plus
ongoing maintenance costs.
:-)
Cheers
Connor
- Mogens_Nørgaard <mln_at_miracleas.dk> wrote: > I'm a
bitter, old, twisted man. And I feel like it
> when I read this thread.
>
> Here's why.
>
> A lot of good people are celebrating the fact that
> Oracle RAC can run on
> a two-node Intel cluster with Linux on top. Very
> cost-efficient, they say.
>
> Well, here's my small calculation:
>
> 1. Two 4-cpu Intel boxes: $8.000,-
> 2. Linux: 50 cents
> 3. Oracle RAC for 8 CPUs: $480.000,-
>
> So that's 60 dollars to Oracle for every dollar to
> Dell/HP/whatever.
>
> Here's a really bad picture, which I apologise for.
> It's not good. But I
> cannot come up with a better, so please help me...
>
> Imagine buying a car which can run, has seats, a
> roof, four wheels,
> brakes, the ability to turn and go backwards,
> built-in radio, etc. Price
> $8.000,-
>
> Imagine that ABS brakes, airbags, anti-skid stuff
> and such cost $480.000,- .
>
> It's not that you don't appreciate ABS, airbags,
> etc. It's not that you
> think it's expensive to get such fantastic devices.
> But it's a lot
> compared to the basic price of the car.
>
> Now, excuse me for being old and bitter: What
> exactly is the reason for
> going RAC in the first place? And why would you buy
> into something which
> is really expensive ($60.000,- per cpu) running on
> platforms that are -
> well - not as well-defined as the old (and dying)
> UNIXes?
>
> Why are you so fascinated by the fact that Intel is
> cheap and Linux is
> cheap when Oracle is so expensive?!?
>
> How can we talk about cheap Linxu clusters with RAC,
> when the pricing is
> as it is? I'd say it sounds a bit like an oxymoron
> :)
>
> Mogens
>
> Richard Ji wrote:
>
> >The NBD is a very interesting thing. Thanks for
> sharing that.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 12:19 AM
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >I've just finished a test implementation for a
> paper I'm presenting at IOUG
> >this spring.
> >
> >Basically, I did an implementation on two Pentium
> II boxes running RedHat
> >7.2. It's not too tough to install, but the real
> problem is figuring out
> >the shared storage pieces. Since I was doing this
> on really low-end
> >hardware, I wound up doing the shared storage using
> NBD's over TCP/IP, which
> >got around the issues.
> >
> >The two docs that help best are the Implementing
> RAC on Linux doc on
> >Metalink and a document on using NBD's for RAC that
> can be found at
> >http://www.fi.muni.cz/~kripac/orac-nbd/.
> >
> >I haven't finished my paper yet, but when it's done
> I'd be happy to forward
> >it along to you. If you are going to try this out
> in a 7.2 environment,
> >drop me an email, and I'll be happy to share the
> experiences I had.
> >
> >--Brian
> >
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >Brian J. Hengen
> >Sr. Software Consultant, BMC Software
> >(303)474-4481 (voice), (303)474-4509 (fax)
> >bhengen_at_bmc.com
> >Technology doesn't stop moving forward. Neither
> should you.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 4:24 PM
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >Hello everyone, i've been quiet recently, for those
> of you who know what
> >I've been up to class has been great, emergency
> medicine is really kewl.
> >
> >Now to the oracle stuff,
> >
> >We're having new requirements by multiple clients
> to ask about RAC(not
> >necessarily on linux), so a couple of us thought,
> we'd try to implement
> >it on a few linux servers, as an experiment to see
> how its done, etc.
> >
> >I'd really not purchase RH advanced Server 2.1 and
> just try it on rh
> >8.0, is this even possible?, I've got like no
> experience on the
> >clustering side of operating systems.
> >
> >I've searched the OTN, oracle and RH sites to not
> much luck.
> >
> >Anyone tried this on non RH AS 2.1 and just used
> regular RH 8.0 and if
> >so are you willing to share the good/bad and
> otherwise of your luck with it?
> >
> >If there is something I missed in the docs on what
> I need to do to make
> >it happen, point me that way and I'll be glad to
> read up on it.
> >
> >thanks, joe
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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