RE: RE: Important - Oracle Pricing on Standby/DR/Failover dat

I'd argue that the business does get the 'insurance' value of knowing it's got redundancy in place in case something befalls the primary server. But all this talk about the equities of software pricing aside--I believe oracle is legally entitled to charge whatever they like. I think the theory is that we can all move to a competitor if we don't like their pricing.

Cheers,

-Roy

Roy Pardee
Programmer/Analyst
SWFPAC Lockheed Martin IT
Extension 8487

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Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:16 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Tom,

    I'm going to agree with both of you, but with reservations. When you have a
standby database during normal day to day operations, what value added does it
provide to your business? Assuming all is well, nothing it's just overhead.

Yes Oracle did do a pile of research and development to offer the capability and
therefore yes they are due compensation for that, in relation to the amount of
added value you extract from that standby. If your like many a shop where you
keep the standby for the day when all hell breaks loose on the primary then the
license fee I believe should be prorated to the possibility of that happening.
If on the other hand you use it as a read-only reporting database all bets are
off.

Dick Goulet

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Author: "Mercadante; Thomas F" <NDATFM_at_labor.state.ny.us>
Date:       1/16/2003 5:14 AM

Jared,

why doesn't it seem right?

in the case where we are running a standby database, are we not using the software? sure, the users are not directly connected. but every transaction that they enter in the primary database is being posted to the standby. if we were not required to pay for this standy-by database, how would Oracle get paid for all the development time they put in to offer such a service?
seems reasonable to me.

as for the failover requirment (10 day limit), Oracle is wrong in this one - the database is always running on one server only. and they (Oracle) have done nothing to offer a better service that has not been already paid for.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional

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Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Thanks Tony.

Looks like Larry E is trying to boost revenues in a down economy by any means necessary.

You're right, this doesn't seem right.

Jared

On Wednesday 15 January 2003 19:08, tjambu_fatcity_at_yahoo.com.au wrote:
> Hi All
>
> For those sites with either a standby, DR or failover database,
> the following information is very important to you. You could be in
> breach of Oracle's Licensing agreement and could cost you $100,000s
> if not millions $$
>
> (Read the summary at the end if you want to skip the details)
>

...

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