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When you get files from an external source no amount of checking is enough.
Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 6:19 PM
Actually, I am sending and receiving files.
They will be handling the FTP of the files, and making sure it has FTPed correctly.
I just have to have a sanity check of the file. Basically, I decided to prefix each data line with 'DAT', and the "CRC line" with 'CRC'. The flat file is "read into the database" via an external table. I query the CRC record, get the expected record count and then count how many rows were actually sent. And then if there is a number column, then I sum that up and check it against the "CRC" expected sum.
Perhaps all this is overkill, but I know that the odds of data corruption are slim to none. I don't like making assumptions, and I can't assume the file is ok.
Many thanks to everyone that responded!!!
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Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 11:54 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
But he was talking about sending, not receiving. and he says that the ftp is assured to work ok.
Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 2:48 AM
> Unfortunately it is a trust issue...
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> Trust me when I say a file can get scrambled. I have seen it happen.
> In our wierdest scenario two received files appeared to be merged into
> a single file - on the source system they had two intact files, on our
system
> 1.5 files merged into a single file and .5 of a file missing.
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> We could never replicate it, we had extensive testing on ftp
> processes, etc, all we know is that it happened and our validation
> techniques saw it and saved us a lot of greif.
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> I do not see how the file can get "scrambled".
> You write it out ok.
> The ftp is guaranteed.
> So what is the problem.
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> I will go along with the suggestion to zip it. It saves on the ftp
> time
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> also gives you some protection.
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> Yechiel Adar
> Mehish
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Grabowy, Chris
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 7:34 PM
> Subject: Flat file generation integrity ideas...
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> I have to create packages that will generate several flat files of
> data from tables that will be sent to other systems to be processed.
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> I am looking for ideas on how to ensure data integrity in the flat
> files.
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> For example, the expected record count is stored on the first line of
> the file to ensure that the correct amount of records was received.
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> The systems group is chartered to ensure the flat files are correctly
> FTPed between systems, so that's covered.
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> I just worry that if "somehow" a flat file is scrambled then the
scrambled
> data is loaded into the database, therefore corrupting it.
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> At this phase, XML is not an option
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> I keep thinking that some sort of CRC should be stored with each line
> in the flat file. And then before the line is loaded into the
> database, the CRC is compared against the generated CRC of the just
> read line. Has anyone done anything like this? Any examples out
> there?
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> Many TIA!!
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