Oracle-L: RE: Named users!

From: <Reginald.W.Bailey_at_jpmorgan.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:29:47 -0800
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Yes, I do. This ploy worked on some of the large corporations in the U.S. And I happen to know this worked on at least one large financial institution.

RWB DENNIS WILLIAMS <DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM>@fatcity.com on 10/21/2002 01:48:54 PM

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I have heard rumors that Oracle has tried out this interpretation on some clients. I have also heard some people were a bit outraged. Have you known anyone that paid up based on this interpretation?

Dennis Williams
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Lifetouch, Inc.
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Oracle now say that if the database interacts with any other system that has
users these must be counted too !

e.g. You have a database that runs a warehouse management system. If this receives orders from another ERP type system via an interface and this system can take internet orders, even if it has its own database license, then either
you count all customers or use processor licensing.

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Sean - I think you are recalling the old "Concurrent Users".

A named user is defined as follows:
Named User: is defined as an individual authorized by you to use the programs which are installed on a single server or multiple servers, regardless of whether the individual is actively using the programs at any given time. A non human operated device will be counted as a Named User in addition to all individuals authorized to use the programs, if such devices can access the programs. If multiplexing hardware or software (e.g., a TAP monitor or a Web server product) is used, this number must be measured at the multiplexing front end.

I feel a good measure today is that anyone who can even contemplate interacting with your database qualifies as a "named user".

Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Not a particularily technical query but a rather practical one. With a named user licence is one user taken per each username returned from a select username from dba_users?

Seán O' Neill
Organon (Ireland) Ltd.
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