Re: MIcrosoft Blackmail

Wow! What a Freudian slip.

I had intended to type 'Microsoft', though I was *thinking* Microslop.

Jared

Jared Still <jkstill_at_cybcon.com>
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Microslop is not a private company, and has not been for quite some years now.

Jared

On Monday 30 September 2002 03:33, Yechiel Adar wrote:
> DENNIS, I think that I did not explain my idea.
>
> I do not understand the complain of Thomas.
> I do not see any harm in a company choosing its dealers based
> on their commitment to the goals of my company.
>
> Microsoft has a right to prefer dealer who embrace the .net,
> or do you think that anybody have the right to tell a PRIVATE
> company who to deal with?
>
>
> Yechiel Adar
> Mehish
> ----- Original Message -----
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 5:18 PM
>
> > Yechiel - But all things are NEVER equal. So companies end up doing
> > stupid things because of some larger motive. You end up buying crappy
> > computers because your boss thinks it will impress the CEO with how
you
> > are loyally supporting someone that somehow supports your company.
> > Ironic isn't it. When the PC industry began, the computer industry
> > was firmly dominated by IBM. PC enthusiasts were a bunch of
starry-eyed
>
> dreamers
>
> > that though they could wrestle computing away from the computer
> > priesthood and bring freedom to everyman. In many ways the Internet
has
> > made that
>
> dream
>
> > come true. But then we have Microsoft talking about creating a new
>
> security
>
> > system for my computer that on one hand will protect me from bad
things
>
> and
>
> > on the other hand will protect the products of large corporations from
> > me. In a great number of ways Microsoft resembles the IBM of the past.
> > <obligatory Oracle reference>
> > Of course Larry Ellison only wishes he had these type of issues
to
> > deal with.
> > </obligatory Oracle reference>
> >
> > Dennis Williams
> > DBA
> > Lifetouch, Inc.
> > dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com <mailto:dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com>
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 8:43 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > What exactly is your problem?
> >
> > Lets say that you are a factory that sells paper.
> > You need to buy a computer system.
> > One supplier also sell printers and the other advocate paperless
office.
> > All things being equal, which one will you give your business to??
> >
> > Yechiel Adar
> > Mehish
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > To: Multiple <mailto:ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 1:13 AM
> >
> >
> > This came to our DBA team today. I'd appreciate your thoughts. I'm
>
> not
>
> > a business
> > guy, just a plain old Apps DBA, but this really pisses me off. Is it
> > common practice
> > by MS?
> >
> > It is important from an Architecture point of view that we
> > understand all the various approaches to "web services" (also known as
>
> "grid
>
> > computing" -- see my recent report). Microsoft's dot Net initiative
is
> > their approach to this grand overarching software strategy.
> >
> > There is a second reason why we might be interested specifically in
> > dot Net. Subsidiary XYZ earns $xyz a year for us from
> >
> > Microsoft by [performing certain services], etc. Microsoft has told
> > our management that one of their criteria for evaluating their vendors
>
> will
>
> > be how good of a MS customer is the potential vendor. Specifically,
has
>
> the
>
> > vendor bought in to the dot Net strategy. Now we aren't going to
make
>
> our
>
> > global enterprise solutions strategy decisions based upon that point
>
> alone,
>
> > but it's not something we are going to ignore either.
> >
> > Therefore, I support investigating SQL server, Biz Talk, and dot
> > Net, but I emphasize the word INVESTIGATING.
> >
> >
> > --
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> > --
> > Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS
> > INET: DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM
> >
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