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Wouldn't that store the sensitive data in the index?
-----Original Message-----
From: Jamadagni, Rajendra [mailto:Rajendra.Jamadagni_at_espn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 12:13 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: using obfuscation
Can you create a Function based index on that column? That could be of use
...
Raj
QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art!
-----Original Message-----
From: Steiner, Randy [ mailto:RASTEIN_at_NYCT.com <mailto:RASTEIN_at_NYCT.com> ]
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:58 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: using obfuscation
Don,
It seems like a real good idea, but what am I putting inside my call to the
encrypt function in my Create View statement?
Randy
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Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:13 AM
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That could be of use ... </span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font>= </p> <p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack = face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Raj</span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>______________________________________________________</spa= n></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN = Inc.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect = that of ESPN Inc. </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'><br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an = art!</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]></span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font>= </p> <p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack = face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>-----Original = Message-----</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>From: Steiner, Randy [<a = href=3D"mailto:RASTEIN_at_NYCT.com">mailto:RASTEIN_at_NYCT.com</a>]</span></fo= nt><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:58 = AM</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>To: Multiple recipients of list = ORACLE-L</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>Subject: RE: using obfuscation</span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black; mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]></span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font>= </p> <p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack = face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Don, </span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font>= </p> <p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack = face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>It seems like a real good idea, = but what am I putting inside my call to the</span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>encrypt function in my Create View = statement?</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font>= </p> <p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack = face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Randy</span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black; mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack = face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> -----Original = Message-----</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:13 = AM</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>To: Multiple recipients of list = ORACLE-L</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>Subject: Re: = using obfuscation</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font>= </p> <p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack = face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> << File: Card for = Don Jerman >> What about...</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font>= </p> <p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack = face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>create view my_data as select = de_encrypt(sensitive_data) as</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>clear_sensitive_data where</span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>sensitive_data =3D encrypt('CLEAR TEXT') = ?</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font>= </p> <p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack = face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>This lets you create an index on = the sensitive data without decrypting it,</span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>and</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>the function need only be called once on the clear = text.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font>= </p> <p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack = face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Caveat: no idea if this should = work :)</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font>= </p> <p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack = face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>"Steiner, Randy" = wrote:</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font>= </p> <p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack = face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>> Hi all,</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span style=3D'font-size:10.0= pt; color:black'>></span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> I have downloaded the Metalink Notes on implementing dbms_obfuscation. I</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>am</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> using multiple front ends on the database, so the way = I plan to implement</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> the de-encryption is with a de-encrypt function in a = view.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>></span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> Create View my_data</span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> AS</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> Select de_encrypt(sensitive_data) AS = sensitive_data</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> ,other_data</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> FROM original_table</span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> ;</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>></span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> If I select from the view with a where clause on = other_data, the response</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> time is fine. If I select from the view with a where = clause on</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> sensitive_data, I do a full table scan and which = takes about 15 minutes.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> The de-encrypt function is copied from a Metalink = note, nothing fancy.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>></span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> Since I have various front ends, I can not de-encrypt = the data in the</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>front</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> end. The only way I can think of is with the = function in a view, but the</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> response time is unacceptable. Does anyone have = any thoughts on this?</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>></span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> Thanks</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color: black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> Randy</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> --</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: <a href=3D"http://www.orafaq.com" = target=3D"_blank">http://www.orafaq.com</a></span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> --</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> Author: Steiner, Randy</span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> INET: RASTEIN_at_NYCT.com</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>></span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051</span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> San Diego, California -- Public Internet = access / Mailing Lists</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> --------------------------------------------------------------------</sp= an></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an = E-Mail message</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> = <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of = 'ListGuru') and in</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> = <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB = ORACLE-L</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>> also send the HELP command for other information = (like subscribing).</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>-- </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'><br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: <a href=3D"http://www.orafaq.com" = target=3D"_blank">http://www.orafaq.com</a></span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>-- </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black'><br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>Author: Steiner, Randy</span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'> INET: RASTEIN_at_NYCT.com</span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black; mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack = face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) = 538-5051</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>San Diego, = California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists</span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>-----------------------------------------------------------= ---------</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail = message</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of = 'ListGuru') and in</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <br> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:black'>the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB = ORACLE-L</span></font><fontReceived on Tue Sep 10 2002 - 13:53:51 CDT
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