Dennis,
One thing you can't do with Thin driver is Transparent Application Failover
which is what Peter wants to do I believe.
Richard
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Peter - A couple of issues come to mind:
- So you are saying that connection failover is your prime interest at this
stage? I was thinking database failover when I saw your question.
- So what is wrong with thin client? At my site we are tending to go with
thin so we don't have to install SQL*Net client on every app server. That
was what attracted us to Java in the first place. Everything I've seen says
that for some applications thin has better performance and for others OCI is
better. Personally I like having options.
- How committed to Oracle is your site? If you have a heavy Oracle
commitment, you may be able to stick it to IBM's attitude. Traditionally IBM
has had an attitude of "use all of our stuff". This goes back to when they
were the Microsoft of the computer industry. Nobody worries about IBM
monopolizing the industry today. Obviously they are learning to shed that
parochial attitude in order to succeed today. I'll bet if you complained up
the IBM management chain about this person's attitude you might see a change
for the better.
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
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Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 5:49 PM
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Dennis,
This is a auite of products. The prime offender is
WebSphere, an IBM product. The IBM consultants have
been particularly difficult to deal with. According
to them, nothing Oracle ever produced works.
The project specifications call for transparent fail
over which is possible using Oracle's thick client.
Unfortunately, WebSphere does not seem to be able to
use anything but jdbc thin client.
If we can't get this to work, we will likely go to
something like Veritas Cluster Server. Replication
provided a solution that had already paid for.
- DENNIS WILLIAMS <DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM> wrote:
> Peter - Have you looked at Oracle Standby Server?
> Which App server are you
> using? Most of them claim to help you with this.
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 3:38 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> We are looking at fail over options for databases in
> a
> 7x24 e-commerce environment.
>
> Currently, we are using advanced replication. It
> works but it is labor intensive. We have also
> discovered that the application can only use jdbc
> rather than the Oracle thick client. In essence,
> this
> replication is now manual fail over.
>
> Would someone who has made java and the thick client
> work provide some pointers to getting it to work?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
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