Oracle-L: RE: Viewing Data in Oracle Apps Tables

From: Naveen Nahata <naveen_nahata_at_mindtree.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 08:28:31 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.004B9FBB.20020820082831@fatcity.com>

Mike - I Checked the view query. The where query is quite complex but the where clause looks pretty innocuous. It doesn't have any condition which checks for username / application anywhere. Where else can the catch be?

Peter - What kind of trigger you are talking about? I haven't heard of a trigger on select, what else?

All - Can you see the logic. What does the words in Oracle Manual mean? This problem is really troubling me and I'm unable to find the solution.

What am I missing? Any Oracle Apps Expert in the list?

Regards
Naveen

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Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 8:43 PM
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Naveen,
You should check the views that supply this data. They often check the current context to make sure that the USERID matches the signon details. That can make it difficult if you're not "signed on". The results you see via Applications forms can be derived from very complicated joins.

Often the only way to get the same results are to look through those views and understand how the results are arrived at.

Regards,
Mike Hately
Oracle DBA

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Sent: 20 August 2002 14:03
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I am not an Apps user but it sounds like that there might be a trigger that doesn't allow you to see the table data through SQL PLUS to inhibit the direct editing of tables. This I suppose is to stop editing that might break referential integrity

Cheers

"Naveen Nahata" <naveen_nahata_at_mindtree.com> Sent by: root_at_fatcity.com
20-08-2002 09:43 PM
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Hi All,

I'm using Oracle Apps 11.0.28 Database Version 8.0.5

When I query the Data using Application Forms I can view the data. When I see
the record information it shows me the view name which is in APPS schema. When I query the view from SQL*PLUS or any other tool, it gives me 'NO ROWS
FOUND' This is from Oracle 11 Architecture Manual:

"Oracle Applications forms and concurrent programs always access database objects from within the Oracle Applications environment. If you use a tool
like SQL*Plus to connect directly to an Oracle Applications schema, the values returned by the view through SQL*Plus may be different from those returned by an Oracle Applications form or concurrent program. For example,
when accessed within the Oracle Applications environment, some views reference profile options at different levels. When accessed directly from SQL*Plus, views reference only the site-level value of the profile option."

And this is also mentioned in the same document:

"In case you want to create a schema with read-only access to applications data......... Grant access on objects to the user schema from the APPS schema, not from a base product schema."

Now my questions are:

What is the meaning of the statement "When accessed directly from SQL*Plus, views reference only the site-level value of the profile option."
Why is it not selecting the data from the view from SQL*PLUS whereas it can select the same data from the application forms
If I am not getting the required data when I connect to the DB using APPS username, how will I get the required data if I grant accss to the objects from APPS schema rather than giving access to underlying Objects directly?

I have to create a seperate application for reporting summaries of critical
information to the management. What access should I give to the application
schema - Read only access on Objects directly or through APPS schema?

Regards
Naveen
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