oh, thanks, but they'll start sending me stuff next year and I can wait
until then :)
- KENNETH JANUSZ <kjanusz_at_att.net> wrote:
> What's your mailing address? I can make the arrangements for you.
>
> Ken Janusz,CPIM
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:33 AM
>
>
> > so sweet. so deluded.
> >
> > I'm one of the chronological seniors here.. not the oldest I've
> found
> > but close
> >
> > on the other hand, AARP (American Association of Retired People)
> hasn't
> > started sending me their propaganda yet
> >
> >
> > --- Peter.McLarty_at_mincom.com wrote:
> > > I didn't know that they gave Managers jobs to people under 20 :-)
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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> > > of
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> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Rachel Carmichael <wisernet100_at_yahoo.com>
> > > Sent by: root_at_fatcity.com
> > > 22-07-2002 07:08 PM
> > > Please respond to ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > cc:
> > > Fax to:
> > > Subject: RE: Rant-Rant
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh I know. I was lucky my last job, we had two full-time DBAs
> (one
> > > senior - me, and one junior/mid) and one senior DBA consultant.
> > >
> > > I *did* look at my boss last week and said "I no longer work 20
> hour
> > > days".
> > >
> > > Not that I had to. He's good, he's very adamant about the fact
> that
> > > if
> > > there is too much work for one person, we will either hire
> > > consultants
> > > or the deadlines will be changed. I'd fall in love with him but
> he's
> > > way too young for me. :)
> > >
> > >
> > > --- "Mercadante, Thomas F" <NDATFM_at_labor.state.ny.us> wrote:
> > > > Rachel,
> > > >
> > > > you are actually proving my point - that a company does not
> have
> > > the
> > > > luxury
> > > > (or common sense) to have more than one DBA on staff.
> > > >
> > > > Robert's utopia just doesn't fly in todays world. hire one
> person
> > > > and
> > > > work-em till they drop is the current motto.
> > > >
> > > > Tom Mercadante
> > > > Oracle Certified Professional
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 3:24 PM
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >The only problem with your idea that I see is that a typical
> > > > >organization
> > > > >will only keep one (or so) DBA on staff per project - they
> rarely
> > > > have
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > excuse me while I wipe the Diet Coke off the screen that I spit
> out
> > > > when I read this. One DBA per project? Oh God that would be a
> > > luxury
> > > > beyond belief.
> > > >
> > > > As I type this I am the DBA for:
> > > >
> > > > a new data mart/data warehouse project
> > > > a new content management system project
> > > > a new ecommerce project
> > > > the existing "universal login" project AND the replacement
> project
> > > > the existing asset management application
> > > > the existing "community" site (bulletin boards)
> > > >
> > > > and anything else that needs a DBA ... and I am it, ain't no
> other
> > > > DBAs
> > > > around ......
> > > >
> > > > oh yeah, I'm the data architect and data modeler on half these
> as
> > > > well... which is REALLY funny as I have almost zero data
> modeling
> > > > experience, other than "common sense"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- "Mercadante, Thomas F" <NDATFM_at_labor.state.ny.us> wrote:
> > > > > OMG! A Socialist in the group!
> > > > >
> > > > > "I believe that if we think about these things in a way that
> we
> > > ask
> > > >
> > > > > ourselves how can I maximize the potential of this person in
> our
> > > > > organization, pay him/her a fair wage for what they can do,
> and
> > > > free
> > > > > up my
> > > > > time to address the really gnarly stuff we can help our
> entire
> > > > > society
> > > > > better transition to the information era and not marginalize
> a
> > > > bunch
> > > > > of
> > > > > great people in the process."
> > > > >
> > > > > The only problem with your idea that I see is that a typical
> > > > > organization
> > > > > will only keep one (or so) DBA on staff per project - they
> rarely
> > > > > have the
> > > > > cash for multiple people. So a DBA ends up getting called
> upon
> > > do
> > > > > cross the
> > > > > boundary between very technical stuff as part of the SA group
> and
> > > > > data
> > > > > access/design with the applications group. Lots of room in
> > > between
> > > > > here for
> > > > > talented people.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom Mercadante
> > > > > Oracle Certified Professional
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 1:23 PM
> > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been reading this list for the past several months as
> I
> > > > > prepare to
> > > > > move my universe of databases from 7.3 to 9 (probably 9) and
> I
>
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