mine have too... but as a generic rule, I'd wait until the backup was
done, unless I trusted my SA
- dgoulet_at_vicr.com wrote:
> Rachel,
>
> You can say that if you want, I trust my SA's. And that they've
> earned the
> HARD way.
>
> Dick Goulet
>
> ____________________Reply Separator____________________
> Author: Rachel Carmichael <wisernet100_at_yahoo.com>
> Date: 7/22/2002 11:15 AM
>
> um, I'd schedule step 6 AFTER the backup finishes... I've seen idiot
> SA's who start the backup then shutdown the machine or kill the
> process
> before it completes.....
>
>
> :)
>
>
> --- dgoulet_at_vicr.com wrote:
> > I have, no fun. But at least your only fooling around with one
> > tablespace
> > and/or file vs. the entire database. The method is rather simple:
> >
> > 1) The tablespace/datafile are already offline, SMON does this
> > for you
> > unless it's SYSTEM in which case your not doing this in the first
> > place.
> >
> > 2) Get your SA to restore the datafiles(s) from tape back to
> > where they
> > belong.
> >
> > 3) startup SQL*Plus as internal.
> >
> > 4) Alter database recover tablespace/datafile as you normally
> > would.
> >
> > 5) Alter tablespace/datafile online.
> >
> > 6) Miller time. (After the SA schedules/starts a hot backup of
> > the entire
> > DB).
> >
> > Want to try one? Take a DB that's in archive log mode & either in
> > development
> > or test. Use production ONLY if your suicidal. Take the datafile
> or
> > tablespace
> > offline for a little while. Now try to bring it back online. Then
> > go to step 4
> > above.
> >
> > Dick Goulet
> >
> > ____________________Reply Separator____________________
> > Author: "Vergara; Michael (TEM)" <mvergara_at_guidant.com>
> > Date: 7/22/2002 8:13 AM
> >
> > I read your rant, and I agree with you. But I do have
> > one little itsy bitsy question...
> >
> > > I also asked them how they'd put a tablespace in
> > > backup mode. Simple enough, right? Not one of them
> > > got it right. Not even close. Didn't have clue as to
> > > what I was talking about. Fair enough, you don't
> > > know. Well how about a simple recovery scenario. I
> > > asked every candidate how they would do an online
> > > recover of a datafile while the database was still in
> > > use. No ideas. Not even close.
> >
> > How DO you do an online recovery of a datafile while the
> > database is still in use? I've had to do recoveries before,
> > but never this scenario.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike
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