Oh I love the "get a cup of coffee"
in other words... THINK before you act
- dgoulet_at_vicr.com wrote:
> mkb,
>
> Your surprised? Over the last 6 years I've interviewed many a
> candidate
> while we added two DBA's to the group. I've gotten a lot of answers
> like this:
>
> Question: How do you create a table?
> Answer: The developer sends me a script. I run script.
>
> Question: How do you shutdown a database?
> Answer: Turn off the power to the computer.
>
> Question: How do you change the block size of a database.
> Answer: Change it in init.ora, restart database.
>
> Question: How do you add a datafile to a tablespace?
> Answer: You can't.
>
> Question: What are archived redo logs?
> Answer: There is no such thing.
>
> BTW: these folks had an OCP certificate.
>
> Best answer to a question I've asked:
>
> Question: You have a database crash at 6AM, what do you do.
> Answer: Get a cup of coffee first, then look in recovery manual.
>
> We hired the guy, he's still here 2 years later and just recently got
> his OCP.
>
> Dick Goulet
>
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> Author: mkb <mkb125_at_yahoo.com>
> Date: 7/22/2002 6:58 AM
>
> Ok, I need to vent a little.
>
> Last week, I was asked to do some tech interviews over
> the phones for a mid level DBA position. Someone with
> about 2-3 years experience.
>
> I don't consider myself a real smart DBA, nor do I
> think that I ask particularly tough questions. The
> questions that I ask potential candidates are soley
> based on what is on the resume. So I figure if
> someone has, say, hot backups or SQL tuning on their
> resumes, I'd expect them to be able to hold a fairly
> intelligent conversation about these topics. No such
> luck!
>
> What really frustrated me, and what I really want to
> get out of my system, is that nobody that I talked to,
> had a real good concept of hot backups. Forget about
> recovery. I asked each and every candidate who
> claimed to have done hot backups, just give me a high
> level overview of how you do a hot backup. Don't care
> about syntax, just give me the mechanics. The answers
> I got were completely off base, baffling and
> frustrating. Some of these folks claimed to have 5
> years experience!!!
>
> 'Well, we use scripts to do these, so I'm not sure how
> these are done...' (But it says on your resume you've
> done this???)
>
> 'Oh, I take the tablespace offline, and copy the
> datafile to tape...' (Unless I'm mistaken, that's not
> how a hot backup is done, right?)
>
> 'Well, I use the export utility, and as the backup
> starts, it is written to the dump file.' (Huh? What?)
>
> 'During this time, everything is written to the redo
> logs and not to the tablespace...' (You've been
> reading one of those books, haven't you?)
>
> I also asked them how they'd put a tablespace in
> backup mode. Simple enough, right? Not one of them
> got it right. Not even close. Didn't have clue as to
> what I was talking about. Fair enough, you don't
> know. Well how about a simple recovery scenario. I
> asked every candidate how they would do an online
> recover of a datafile while the database was still in
> use. No ideas. Not even close.
>
> I dunno, perhaps I'm spoilt by being a member of this
> list? Perhaps I expect every candidate to be as
> knowledgeable as you guys? Perhaps I'm asking too
> much?
>
> Rant over. Thanks for listening.
>
> mkb
>
>
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