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AW &^%$, Pardon me! It's Motorola not Magnavox. Damned old age showing itself,
again!!
Dick Goulet
____________________Reply Separator____________________ Author: Jared.Still_at_radisys.com Date: 7/17/2002 2:33 PM
Magnavox? As in the TV? ;)
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Mike,
Apple is still trying to compete with MicroSlop & having a hard time
of it
as well. I believe Apple's major problem competing is that Magnavox chip
they
remain stuck to. MicroSoft went and let someone else build the machines
instead
of doing it all themselves. Therefore you end up with a monopoly in
software in
a sea of competing hardware vendors. Panacea at it's best.
OH DARN, here comes those Lindows folks with their Linux based windows
environment. Darn, someone had to upset the boat sooner or later. (Got
to play
with one of those WalMart specials with Lindows on it. I'm SERIOUSLY
impressed.)
Dick Goulet
____________________Reply Separator____________________ Author: "Johnson; Michael " <Michael.Johnson_at_oln-afmc.af.mil> Date: 7/17/2002 11:05 AM
There are those that argue Apple provided competition to Microsoft. Not very good competition, but competition nonetheless and so the monopoly argument goes out the window. I agree Microsoft is substandard product, especially with regard to the server based class. However, the market place has spoken very clearly and it is up to someone else to come and take away some of Microsofts Pie !
In 1998, at Oracle OpenWorld, McNally and Ellision completely trashed Microsoft and Bill Gates in one of those open morning sessions. My thought at the time was , instead of bitchin about them , why dont you just go compete against them and put them out of business.
Well, its 2002 and Sun / Oracle now have
major business problems and Microsoft just
seems to keep on truckin. I havent heard
much lately from Scott and Larry regarding
this issue. Perhaps they are putting together
a good technical presentation for Openworld
this year and that will give me a good
reason to go.
maybe I will hear good technical presentations instead of thoughtless meanderings and tirades about folks they are obviously jeoulous of.
FWIW. Mike
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 3:19 PM
To: 'Michael.Johnson_at_oln-afmc.af.mil'
Hi Mike,
I just got a bit of a chuckle when you mentioned "free market system" and
"Microsoft" in the same breath. Microsoft didn't get to be the biggest by
having the best product. They got it from the best marketing and
unscrupulous and illegal business practices (tried to say that without
using
the over-used "Monopoly"!).
Oracle can make claims that they are the best because they can actually prove some or most those claims. MS can't. Sorry for sounding like a whiner, but it's been a Microsoft day at it's best. Multiple reboots for everyone! Yay!
OK, enough whining. It's no fun when you can't whine/complain to someone without having some brewskis! :)
Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator Rich.Jesse_at_qtiworld.com Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WIUSA
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